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Combo Name: Gain control of all creatures! Submitted By: Turbine
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Peer Pressure
 Sorcery 3U Onslaught, Rare

Shields of Velis Vel
 Tribal Instant - Shapeshifter W Lorwyn, Common

Hive Mind
 Enchantment 5U Magic 2010, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $1.45
Date Posted: Sun May/09/10 at 1:47 pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Play Shields of Velis Vel, with Hive Mind in play, your opponent will probably copy it on himself/herself. Then, if you control more creatures than your opponent, play Peer Pressure and gain control of all of his creatures.
Date Posted: Sun May/09/10 at 10:12pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

standardize works better then the shields and hive mind, your opponent can choose you for the target makeing it void
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 7:41am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Why would they choose you? In normal situations, it would be a bad idea for them.
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 10:09am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

You can target your opponent with sheilds. . .

Why do you need hive mind?
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 11:17am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

by playing shields on himself and his opponent he does not need to play a tribal deck to make peer presurre work

Why would they choose you?  2 reasons the first being this is a one hit wonder-if they choose themselves the 1st time they never will again, the second reason is (and I am generalizing here, based on my experiences) people will wonder with hive mind out why would you play a card that benefits me? especially when they realize that most cards that benefit from creature type affact only the controllers creatures, most that hinder it affect the opponent.  such as spirit mirror, peer presure, harsh mercy, tivdors crusade, not to mention creatures that can't be blocked by such and such
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 10:26pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well, you explained it too well gericault... Not all players have a card library in their brain such as yours, well some players might not realize what you're trying to do...
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 10:52pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

I agree some people wont realize it the first time, but you won't fool them the second time around, well maybe some of them
Date Posted: Tue May/11/10 at 2:18pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Yeah, me and my bro have gotten to the point where we know what the other will play before we even play it.
Date Posted: Tue May/11/10 at 2:23pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

That happens with most decks. When I have played a certain type of deck before, I can guess what my opponent is going to play just by seeing what mana they tap.

An example: My friend and me were playing. I had a Hand of Emrakul, Brimstone Mage (3 counters) and Kozilek's Predator in play. All he had was a Clone of Hand of Emrakul. I attacked with Kozilek's Predator. He guessed that I had a Lightning Bolt in hand and let the attack through. (Later, I killed his Clone and won by playing Emrakul.)
Date Posted: Tue May/11/10 at 8:58pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

true but the problem with this is when the opponent knows it, it is worthless.  The advantage of standardize is you even if they know you have it you get to call when it goes and unless they have a counter they can't stop it
Date Posted: Wed May/12/10 at 12:29am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

you have a point there... We're just saying the possibilities...



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