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Combo Name: What? Submitted By: Turbine
Card Name
Type
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Akroma's Memorial
Legendary Artifact 7 Future Sight, Rare

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi 15 15/15 Rise of the Eldrazi, Mythic
Estimated Combo Cost: $25.07
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 6:35 pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Emrakul is a 15/15 that can't be countered with flying, first strike, vigilance, trample, haste, protection from red, protection from black, protection from colored colored spells, and annihilator 6. Also, when you cast it, take another turn after this one, and when it is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles his or her graveyard into his or her library.
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 7:17pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

this is a kind of lame combo anything with akromas memorial is a combo then
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 7:51pm

batmanfreak1
Posts: 12
Joined: 12-Aug-09

I don't think he's trying to say its a combo... he's just showing the freaking ridiculous power..... that's insane....
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 7:52pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I am just showing how many abilities you could have with two cards. It wasn't really meant to be a combo.
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 7:59pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Ok I see the Eldrazi are broken lets all figure it out. THIS IS INSANE!!! R&D's secret lair is true!!!
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 8:05pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Forgive him twogunkid... He might be out of combo ideas... Give him time... He'll come up with something better...
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 8:07pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Yeah. . .about that. I just posted another random combo.I'll think of something better tomorrow.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 5:32am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

All Emrakul would gain from the memorial is first strike, vigilance, trample, and haste. He already has the other 3. Chances are if you had an AM and played Emrakul, it's gg.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 5:43am

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

add an elvish piper so people don't get a chance to play stuff on their turn to deal with emrakul, also, a lot easier to play Emrakul of aeons torn (5 mana with the cost of the piper, which would have haste with the memorial) though keep in mind there is no extra turn if you use the piper, since it is not cast (its a triggered ability, not casting)
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 5:56am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

'All Emrakul would gain from the memorial is first strike, vigilance, trample, and haste. He already has the other 3. Chances are if you had an AM and played Emrakul, it's gg.'

Wrong, it would also gain Protection from Red and Black. Emrakul only has protection from coloured SPELLS as default, so it can still be blocked, Oblivion Ringed, etc.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 8:10am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

True. I read him rather quickly. O ring wouldn't work though. All cards are spells, and auras need targets just like instances and sorceries.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 8:18am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I thought that Auras didn't target creatures.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 8:20am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Oblivion Ring would work on Emrakul.

Remember, Oblivion Ring itself has no target, it is just an Enchantment. (EDIT: Note it's NOT an Aura. Auras DO target WHEN YOU CAST THEM)

When you cast it, you just cast it - when it enters the battlefield it's triggered ability goes on the stack and you choose a target for it.

At this point Oblivion Ring is a Permanent, not a Spell, and can target Emrakul just fine.

[Edited by Zark-the-Damned on 7/May/10 at 8:21AM]
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 8:23am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

So, if Oblivion Ring was black, it wouldn't be able to enchant Emrakul.

Also, I just realized that Oblivion Ring was an Enchantment, but not an Aura. Would a black Aura be able to enchant Emrakul?
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 9:11am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

No. I was incorrect in my last statement. I was thinking O-rings were auras but they are not. Auras require targets, and are spells when on the stack. Therefore, and colored auras would not be able to target Emrakul.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 9:29am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

'So, if Oblivion Ring was black, it wouldn't be able to enchant Emrakul.'

Assuming you had the combo in play, Emrakul has Protection from Black and isn't a legal target for any black source, so if O Ring was black it couldn't target him.

'Also, I just realized that Oblivion Ring was an Enchantment, but not an Aura. Would a black Aura be able to enchant Emrakul?'

Under normal circumstances, Emrakul is able to have Auras attached to him - so long as they are either colourless when they are played (like Eldrazi Conscription) or are put into play enchanting him (e.g. via an effect like Nomad Mythmaker) - you cannot cast a coloured Aura targeting him though.

In this situation, Emrakul cannot be enchanted with a Black aura - part of protection is 'cannot be equipped, enchanted or fortified by a permanent that is x' - so even if you could use an effect to trick an aura onto him (e.g. Simic Guildmage) it would 'fall off' as a state based effect.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 10:17pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

so even if you could use an effect to trick an aura onto him (e.g. Simic Guildmage) it would 'fall off' as a state based effect.

No, simic guildmage and others move an aura from on creature to another, at the point that ability can be activated that aura it is no longer a spell, it is a permanant (spells only exist on the stack), Emarakul does not have protection from colored permanents -an aura can be tricked ontp him and will stay
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 10:28pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Well, that is a relief, looks like my rebel deck is just fine.
Date Posted: Sat May/08/10 at 5:31am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

'so even if you could use an effect to trick an aura onto him (e.g. Simic Guildmage) it would 'fall off' as a state based effect.

No, simic guildmage and others move an aura from on creature to another, at the point that ability can be activated that aura it is no longer a spell, it is a permanant (spells only exist on the stack), Emarakul does not have protection from colored permanents -an aura can be tricked ontp him and will stay'

You've taken that out of context. In the example given, Emrakul also has protection from Red and from Black (due to the Memorial), so black and red auras WILL fall off.

If Emrakul did not have these protections then you would be right.
Date Posted: Sun May/09/10 at 12:18am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

my miss sorry about that
Date Posted: Fri Jun/17/11 at 7:58am

T}{3 0l\l3 VV}{0 1S
Posts: 178
Joined: 10-Jun-11

i was reading this and honestly thought i was the one posting, but was like "I don't remember posting this". I should have looked at the name, not the pic.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/17/11 at 8:31am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

yeah I keep wanting to refer to you as turbine
Date Posted: Mon Jun/27/11 at 3:47pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You'd better not.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/14/11 at 7:39pm

T}{3 0l\l3 VV}{0 1S
Posts: 178
Joined: 10-Jun-11

now all of our pics have changed. yay
Date Posted: Wed Sep/14/11 at 8:19pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

@Turbine:

Afraid Cosine's gonna steal your reputation?

AVATAR CRISIS!!!!
Date Posted: Wed Sep/14/11 at 8:39pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

BRAAAAAAINSSSSSS



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