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Combo Name: Painter's Grindstone Submitted By: Squillis
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Grindstone
 Artifact 1 Tempest, Rare

Grindstone
 Artifact 1 Tempest, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $38.32
Date Posted: Mon Jan/12/09 at 9:46 am

Squillis
Posts: 424
Joined: 20-Nov-08

Note, Painter's Servant was not in the database when this combo was submitted. This is why it isn't listed as one of the cards needed, though it is needed.

Turn 1:
-Land
-Grindstone
Turn 2:
-Land
Turn 3:
-Land
-Painter's Servant choosing any color
Turn 4:
-Activate Grindstone, all cards not in play (ie. Library) are the same color from Servant, this includes land, so mills the whole deck.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/04/12 at 11:24pm

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Damnit, I was sure I had come up with this first. :D 

One important note on this combo - it can go infinite, with as little as your opponent running any Eldrazi in their deck. While Grindstone would make them whatever color you've selected with the Painter's Servant, their activated abilities would cause that player to shuffle their deck back into their library.

That doesn't stop Grindstone. Grindstone's ability would keep on chugging, until you hit that Eldrazi shuffler again, in which case the Eldrazi and the graveyard get shuffled back into the library. grindstone's ability would keep chugging, ect, ect.

It goes from a deck-killer to an infinite loop causing a draw.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/04/12 at 11:34pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

sorry but it doesn't go infinate, the ability repeating itself is all part of the same resolution and the eldrazi trigger doesn't go on the stack until grindstone finishes resolving, in this case, after it mills all the cards it will stop and then the trigger goes on the stack. 
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 12:21am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

You're right - Grindstone's ability would have to resolve before any shuffle abilities do.

Please, please, please fix your grammar and punctuation. ^^;
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 1:18am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

You're correcting someone's grammar and punctuation on a forum on the internet? There's a lot of cleaning up to do, I don't think you're up for the challenge. I don't even really see any big problems. If you want to see crazy punctuation errors, look up reapers early combos. I think he did stuff way before you did, but he would type paragraphs and stories without a single punctation mark. Crazy stuff.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 1:20am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

You're correcting someone's grammar and punctuation on a forum on the internet? There's a lot of cleaning up to do, I don't think you're up for the challenge. I don't even really see any big problems. If you want to see crazy punctuation errors, look up reapers early combos. I think he did stuff way before you did, but he would type paragraphs and stories without a single punctation mark. Crazy stuff.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 2:11am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

1. I never corrected his grammar, nor punctuation, but okay!
2. The example you cited is inaccurate (at best), and (at worst) completely unrelated to the topic at hand. It's the sort of example a kid would give. My asking one person to maintain their grammar and punctuation =/= me needing to correct the entire internet. Suggesting that I'd need to accomplish that to ask gericault to improve himself is ridiculous. :D
3. if you cant figue out what problems i have withthe punctuation and gramar that greicult provided then i will proided it in the same way and then maybe youll get it but somehow i can't see that happening, i dont know maybe maby not but either way it wasn't important enugh to bring up on my end, im sure he'll feel better about it now that youve encouraged belaboring the point
4. I really don't share your nostalgia for awful grammar! Sorry! ^^


[Edited by Academic on 5/Jun/12 at 2:12AM]
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 2:44am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Just saying that it's silly to really concern yourself with someone's errors, especially those as minute as the occasional spelling mistake and run on sentence. I've seen a lot worse. As long as you can understand what people are saying I think you're fine.

As for nostalgia, I've got a bunch of them. There was that one guy, Desertspirit I believe, who had a tenuous grasp on english, although to be fair, I think it was his second language. Or KikoRivera, remember we all thought he was actually Pinkie (who I feel like I haven't seen in awhile...). That guys was impossible to understand. As long as no one is doing this (http://www.mtgcombos.com/view.php?fid=2&tid=44270), then there shouldn't be much of a reason to complain...
Date Posted: Tue Jun/05/12 at 2:47am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

That same logic would say it's not worth asking someone not to litter because someone else is just going to litter.

Much in the same way I'd prefer my peers not to litter, I'd prefer my peers to be literate.

And I'm sorry, but I'm still not interested in the historic precedent of people being awful.



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