The latest Dragon's Maze Spoilers

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Okay, the other thread was way, way too long. This is the new thread.

So far, we know:

-No basic lands in booster packs
-All land slots will be filled with either Gates, Shocklands, or Maze's End
-Maze's End is also the prerelease promo card
-All ten guilds will compete in a maze, in hopes of ruling over all of the guilds
-All guild sets during the prerelease tournament will come with a booster representing a secret ally guild
-Players will compete in teams to make it to the center of the maze - world results will affect official canon
-Ral Zarek is this set's Planeswalker, an Izzet Gizmomancer
-Expect Shockland prices to drop to around $7-9 dollars
-There will be only one event deck for this set - it's rumoured to be either five coloured, or guildless
-In the official story, the ten champions running the maze for their guilds are:
--Exava, Blood Witch of the Rakdos
--The Weird, Melek, Izzet Paragon (This decision pisses off Ral Zarek a bit)
--Vorel of the Hull Clade, representing the Simic

--Boros Tajic, Blade of the Legion
--The Golgari send a fucking troll
--Mirko Vosk of the Dimir
--Ruric Thar
--Emmara Tandris of the Selesnya

--Bitchfaced Lavinia of the Tenth, for the Azorius

--Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts will represent the Orzhov.
-Wizards has said that this and the next set will mesh very well for the Dimir, because of how meek they were in RTR and Gatecrash
- 'Theros' (Friends), 'Born of the Gods' (Romans), and 'Journey into Nyx' (Countrymen) are the next three upcoming sets
-Rumors are suggesting that the Gruul's secret ally is the Rakdos, which means Jund is back in session
-Wizards plans on another Phyrexia set down the line
-There are no official plans for an Un-Set at this time
-gericault5 was clever as hell, enough so to work out one possible guild alliance - the Izzet and the Azoruis, by virtue of the canon story regarding the Izzet's Melek, a Weird created between the guilds
-Wizards has announced that this week will be full of official spoilers. :D

Here's all cards spoiled (or possibly spoiled) to date:
From Dragon's Maze:

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From Upcoming sets:

And here's the official teaser.

[Edited by Academic on 25/Apr/13 at 7:12PM]

Date Posted: Sat Apr/06/13 at 11:30pm

RedZTape

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*comment no longer applies*

[Edited by RedZTape on 1/May/13 at 7:45AM]

Date Posted: Sun Apr/07/13 at 11:05pm

spoiler season has begun and i am liking that ultimate, and they added a new mechanic with the split cards. alos the splits are a great way for guild cooperation notice the simic and azoroius watermarks, did not even consider that possibility

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[Edited by gericault5 on 7/Apr/13 at 11:32PM]

Date Posted: Sun Apr/07/13 at 11:21pm

Krark's Thumb has found another use!

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Date Posted: Sun Apr/07/13 at 11:39pm

Nice, Geri. I was just about to make those live myself.

So - Melek, Izzet Paragon, Ral Zarek, Render Silent, Beck//Call, and Toil//Trouble. Anything else today?

[Edited by Academic on 8/Apr/13 at 5:05PM]

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Date Posted: Mon Apr/08/13 at 8:33pm

So for the split cards I think there will be 15 total, 10 at uncommon (one for each guild) and 5 rare (one for each alliance)

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2 more

Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 7:15am

More than that. The Deputy of Aquitals is cool, but everything that came out last night is pretty great.

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So, let's see... Sin Collector is cool. For the price of a solid spell effect, you get the spell, plus a 2/1.

Master of Cruelties is fantastic, although he seems to be leading to some of the least original combos on the internet (No, Knarf, that's not a swipe at you - it's just that absolutely everyone online has gone "oh, make him unblockable!" the second he came out, as if the most way to use the card wasn't dead obvious.)

Vorel isn't bad - although I expect to see him more in EDH than I do in standard.

As for Advent of the Wurm, I like 5/5 trample creatures for four. :D

Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 8:53am

That demon will go well with Glaring Spotlight or Rogue's Passage.
That Simic legend goes well with Mycosynth Lattice+Planeswalkers and also Increasing Savegery.

Advent of the Wurm should NOT be that cheap, considering that populate is still a thing in standard. Also what is a thing in standard: Parallel Lives. One 5/5 flash trampler is crazy, adding one (or multiples) each turn is insane, but having two(or four or eight or sixteen, dependent on the number of Parallel Lives in play) is just disgusting.

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 4:11pm

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Advent of the Wurm has cemented Simic/Selesnya in my mind. It's the absolute best spell I've seen that benefits them both in frightening ways. I predict that card will be very expensive ($20+) and that Trostani will see a ton more play. You thought Wolf Run Bant was good? Well now it's the best.

Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 10:18pm

It may see more play, but gideon is something to watch out for in those situations. And id say 12 max for those cards. They're good, but not 20+ worth

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 11:10pm

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Maybe 15 or so lol

Date Posted: Tue Apr/09/13 at 11:36pm

:D :D :D

This is my spoiler. As of right now, it's not even on any other spoiler site yet.

ALL. ME. :D

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Meet Tesya, Envoy of Ghosts.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 12:00am

How do you know then?
It has a built in No Mercy meets March of Souls.

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 12:09am

I am so never telling. :D

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 11:12am

Arrest their weenies and bounce their fatties and attack with your uw weenies!-))

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new EDH general

Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 11:52am

Yeah, that's alright.

Mine's cooler, though. We're still waiting on visual spoilers. :D

Trostani�s Summoner
5gw
Creature - Elf Shaman Uncommon
When
Trostani�s Summoner enters the battlefield, put a 2/2 white Knight
creature token with vigilance, a 3/3 green Centaur creature token, and a
4/4 green Rhino creature token with trample onto the battlefield.
1/1

Combo exploitable, much? :D

[Edited by Academic on 10/Apr/13 at 11:52AM]

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 12:18pm

I believe it would be called ~~Conjurer's~~ Sorcerer's Closet.

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/10/13 at 4:44pm

Nim deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar!?

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[Edited by knarf_the_dwarf on 10/Apr/13 at 5:17PM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 3:50pm

Okay - a whole pile of spoilers dropped - and two of them revealed guild alliances... that I totally didn't see coming. :D

Anyways, here's the legendaries.

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Yes, unblockable makes him cool. :D

BR swarm just got hella cool. She's awesome on her own, too - she combos well with Mikaeus, the Lunarch, too.

I hate this card. :D It's a demon, it's expensive, fuck it.

I know that some people are loving the idea. Just not me.

Dimir/Rakdos? The hell? :D

Okay, that's more likely. :D

-edit-Also, it looks like a *lot* of these split cards would work with my Return Migration idea, yo. :D -/edit-

[Edited by Academic on 11/Apr/13 at 5:32PM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 5:16pm

I know i called dimir/radkos and it makes sense storywise given the nature of those guilds, but not playwise. I really wished radkos was paired with orzhov

and speaking of things not making sense playwise, it was said the allied champs would work well together, but has anyone else else noticed that four of the champions paired do not mesh that well

Vorel & Lavia -azoriuos is not really a counter guild, yes one turn you can make a large attack with a vorel beefed creature due to lavia's ETB but what about after that. This pairing relies to much on other cards to really be cooperative

Mirko & Exava- apart both are really cool especially Mirko's built in mind funeral (as far as I'm concerned Mill is now a viable Standard option), both work well with their respective guilds themes, but I don't see how they feed off of each other. If Exava gave each creature unleash that would be different but barely

Ruric & Varolz - now this is what I was expecting, when they talked about cooperative working. An aggresive creature like ruric is the perfect place for scavage counters, and Ruric's non-creature spell ability makes you want to play more creatures therefore more targets for Varolz to scavage, and with Varolz's sac ability you can play a creature for their ETB then scavage their power onto Ruric or other. They both also go so well with their guilds themes.

Still need to see how Teysa and Melek work out with their partners, especially with Teysa as her abilities seem inclusive, (though is suppose emmara could have a parrellel lives type ability)

Izzets and gruuls split card

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As for the Sire being in the color of reanimate, my madness deck just got a new powerhouse

[Edited by gericault5 on 11/Apr/13 at 5:17PM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 11:00pm

Sire goes well with the mill aspect of the dimir. Odds are most of the cards will work fairly well with one another except for the leaders. This might lead to what team gets past the maze is what im thinking. And is anyone else noticing the esper, jund, etc. pattern? If it continues, the last two pairs are obvious.

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 11:17pm

@chewy-Its looking like we have bant, jund, grixis. However, due to the enemy pairing of the remaining guilds the shards pattern shouldn't continue with the last two groupings being Necra (BGW) and Raka (America RWU)

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But screw all those

I am so hoping for mortify

[Edited by gericault5 on 11/Apr/13 at 11:22PM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 11:20pm

The izzet and boros guild combo should counteract one another to work around any situation, either through force or mind, and the orzhov/selesnya combo should work pretty well due to extort, and to the fact that populate encourages you to play spells in order to gain creatures. Everyone was talking about mill/control becoming a thing, and I believe that's what's taking place with the dimir/rakdos pairing. As for the gruul golgari pair, it makes sense with the base abilities. bloodrush allows you to discard while scavenge lets you use the card from your grave. Each pair has a very well defined trait, and in thought, this is the reason for the pairing.

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/11/13 at 11:40pm

Geri - I got that same sense of disappointment. All rumours pointed to Legendaries being allied in useful ways - that sure as hell didn't pan out.

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But most everything else is, though, so, whatever. :D

Date Posted: Fri Apr/12/13 at 12:53am

@chewy - You can make any guild work with any guild. However that doesn't mean they would work well together, there has to be enough synergy between their strategies to make them effective. Izzet/boros work well, the aggressive boros supported by the spell slinging of the izzet solid arggo control. Golgari/gruul is a solid blend they both go with bigger badder creatures,
Orzhov/selesynia and dimir/rakdos can work,, but in my mind doesn't blend as well as some of the other possible pairings. Any guild will pair with orzhov if your just basing on casting spells for extort, but a guild like rakdos which has a lot more lower priced creatures would allow for more casting plus the extort will make unleash happen more since your not so concerned with the life loss, also triggers rakdos " loss life before casting" subtheme. Selesyna on the other hand is slow like orzhov and many of the more common populate aspects are abilities and not effected by extort.
Dimir/rakdos -mill is slow, it takes time and azor and izzet could buy that time, rakdos can to but it suffers in the process, unleash won't happen since you'll need blockers so you'll lose much of rakdos aggression. and what does the aggression of the rakdos offer the dimir mill stategy, In a deck with a mill stat I would play Melek or lavinia as they can offer something, but why would I play Exava what does she offer the strategy.

@academic- yeah I'm liking everything that is coming out, just have to learn to stop listening to wizards when they say things will work well together

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Date Posted: Fri Apr/12/13 at 11:47am

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[Edited by Academic on 12/Apr/13 at 11:48AM]

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Date Posted: Fri Apr/12/13 at 11:50am

Nice. Broke it in a way I can't fix. That's pretty new. :D

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Date Posted: Fri Apr/12/13 at 11:56am

Fuck it, this trick won't work with the crappy autocoding system mtgcombos uses. Here's what I was going to mock, if the site would have
allowed it.

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It's not worthless - for example, since it's a non-targetted ability, it could hit creatures with pro-red, pro-blue, shroud, or hexproof.

The thing is, assuming there's two creatures, including the Test Pilot, you've only got a 1:4 chance of hitting that creature, and a 1:2 chance of hitting yourself or the Pilot.

This is a total Johnny card, no lie.

[Edited by Academic on 12/Apr/13 at 11:58AM]

Date Posted: Sat Apr/13/13 at 12:22am

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Disappointing end of the week! What do you guys think about Zhur-Ta Ancient? I want to use him but I don't want to enable omniscience when I pass. :/

Date Posted: Sat Apr/13/13 at 4:04pm

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Goblin Test Pilot doesn't get around shroud, hexproof, pro-red or pro-blue. You have to choose the target at random from all legal targets, so Geist, Goblin Piledriver, Kor Firewalker or Nimble Mongoose can't get hit, ever. Still a fun card.

Date Posted: Sat Apr/13/13 at 4:15pm

@red- I can only speak for my meta, but at 10 mana without a way to cheat it in, Omniscience hasn't found its way into standard decks. Its still at the kitchen table.

Personally I will be keeping the ancient at the kitchen table as well,. yes a 7/5 for 5 is good, but the fact I am making it easier for my opponents to play spells/abilities for a creature that can be chumped by a 1/1 is a little to much for me, even with the mana boost, since green can easily make up

[Edited by gericault5 on 13/Apr/13 at 4:17PM]

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Date Posted: Sat Apr/13/13 at 8:00pm

Zapdos - you're right. There's a world of difference between 'a random creature or player', and 'chosen at random'. That's an important distinction.

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So he's borderline useless, yeah? Without some supliment, he's a Johnny card, and not much else.

Date Posted: Sun Apr/14/13 at 4:11am

Someone here was saying how much they wished they could turn their favorite creature into a token, right?

Because

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Date Posted: Sun Apr/14/13 at 11:57am

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Good God...Sire of Insanity...looks like this Jester is playing reanimator again...

Date Posted: Sun Apr/14/13 at 9:35pm

I completely skimmed over the fact that it said "EACH endstep EACH player discards their hand". That makes this @$$#013 hard to kill.

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/16/13 at 12:30am

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Plus:

Equals awesome.

Date Posted: Tue Apr/16/13 at 9:12am

That is greatly disturbing, too.

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 3:13pm

Progenitor Mimic has been holding steady at $5, and don't expect that to drop too much until it's out of format. People have been dreaming up ways of exploiting this, their favorite creature, and populate - the second someone stumbles on an easy answer is the second that this card rises in price.

So far, Ral Zarek is by far the most desired card on the market. His preorder prices are sitting at about $30, and that price isn't expected to stop after the prerelease weekend. Fact is, he's kind of perfect for RU decks, and he works in multiple formats well. Definitely grab a copy when you can find it.

An unexpected darling was the Voice of Resurgance - within the last 24 hours, it's price has shot up from $5 to nearly $20, and that's likely to stay high for a long while. It's a GW bear that pumps out tokens that get bigger with every token you make, and given all of the token boost cards out there (in the last block especially), this card is going to be a workhorse come prerelease.

There's an awful lot of love for the Blood Scrivener - he just fits into so many formats, and old decks that people can't help but be excited about the two-drop creature. He's not too expensive at the moment - around $4 or so - but expect that to shoot up the second someone finds a way to break him.

No one's really surprised at the popularity of the Legion's Initiative - for two, you get one hell ofa lot of powerful options. It's price has held stead at about $7-$10 dollars, although that may well shoot higher if the Boros dominate this weekend - which many are speculating is possible.

Beck//Call is sitting at $4, and a lot of it has to do with a combo that I put onto the internet before anyone else. :D The idea of pumping out four birds per turn with the Panoptic Mirror is crazy exciting, and everyone knows it. That price may go down after this format cycles out, but at themoment, it's high demand.

The Blood Baron has made a lot of people happy, especially WB Sorin players. I can't wait to see a really exciting combo involving him - but until then, I'll have to just enjoy the fact that there's an Angel-level vampire in standard. His price has been fairly firm at just under $10, but that's expected to drop a bit after prerelease.

Gaze of Granite might be the sleeper card to buy right now. It's sitting at about $3.50, but that's expected to rise a few dollars. It's basically a quieter version of Pernicious Deed, and that hasn't been ignored by the players so far.

�therling thrilled people when his spoiler came out, and he looks like he'd fit well into both the Dimir, Simic, and Azorius as late-game treats. It's price at the moment at about $5-$6. I'm not sure I'd care about him at all during the prerelease - speed decks seem to be what everyone's excited about - but most people buying him aren't thinking about his use in Standard format.

Advent of the Worm was at $3 yesterday, it's up to about $6 today. If you find a copy at a good price, snatch it. Instant speed 5/5 tramplers for four mana are worth owning for the sake of owning.

An unexpected hit is actually another of the mono-coloured bears - Skylasher. It's a Grizzly Bear with reach/flash/pro-blue, making him a very useful solution to a lot of problems. He's sitting at $4, although that's more likely to go down than up.

[Edited by Academic on 23/Apr/13 at 3:33PM]

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 5:39pm

Okay - there's a few potentially massive spoiler here.

The 'secret guild alliances'?

Wizards has just hinted that they may not be locked in. Although the official guild alliances have split cards representing their teams, the latest word is that the secret alliance booster will be nearly random.

I'm hoping to hell this is a load of crap, because I would *hate* to be the girl who pulled, say, the Selesnya, and their secret ally guild, the Rakdos. :/

Second, they've let slip the event deck - it's Selesnya. No word on why they decided on the hippies, but word is that if you're looking to really take advantage of the token creatures, the deck will be fantastic for you.

Third, they've dropped the official rules FAQ for the set - you can find it
here. If you're looking to be the first to exploit some sweet combos, this is where you'll find the best chances to do it.

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 6:13pm

quotation from ITs link:

"In every zone except the stack, split cards have two sets of characteristics and two converted mana costs. If anything needs information about a split card not on the stack, it will get two values. For example, if a player reveals Down & Dirty due to Duskmantle Seer's ability ("At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of his or her library, loses life equal to that card's converted mana cost, then puts it into his or her hand."), the game will see its converted mana cost as 4 and 3. This translates to that player losing a total of 7 life. "

Will this have impact on our interpretation of Panoptic Mirror rulings? (http://www.mtgcombos.com/view.php?fid=2&tid=68786) Related to Mirror's Ruling 12/1/2004: To imprint a split card, you pay X equal to either side's converted mana cost. If the copied card is a split card, you choose which one side of it to cast, but you can't cast both sides. You can choose the other side later in the game, though. I thought that "either" means "this or that", not "this and that".

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 6:26pm

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According to this video by Wizards, the secret alliance has to share a colour with your chosen guild, so there's no chance that you'd randomly get stuck with a janky-ass 4 colour deck like G/W/R/B lol. But judging by the pack in the video (Boros/Rakdos) it is fairly random and not aligned with the set's storyline at all (Boros/Izzet or Dimir/Rakdos).

As for the event deck, I'm really excited about the whole 1 event deck per set thing. I'd rather have 1 deck that has amazing value than 2 decks with mediocre value. As it is now, one deck is always way better than the other and is the only one that actually sells. I still see the infect event deck from New Phyrexia at my local shop but I haven't seen the stoneforge one in ages lol.

Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 7:41pm

@knarf it wont have an impact, its nothing new. basically panoptic does not look for what duskmantle does

(written for beginners) a split card is still one card with X and Y mana costs. panoptic asks you to exile a card with mana cost X, it doesnt give a damn about Y, only that it has X. you then imprint the CARD not the side,and copy the CARD to cast. Since you basically have the card the rules which govern them allow you to choice the side you end up cast.
rule 708.5 (which she was�paraphasing) duskmantle, infernal genesis, and other things that look at a cmc of a CARD. see the CARD has X and Y and therefore has to add them because those are the cmc thats on the CARD

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 9:43pm

Knarf, the IT thing is still coming across about as well as when you were counting posts. If you want answers, you need to talk like a grown-up. :)

That said, I haven't been wrong when it comes to split cards yet. It's a functional abuse of the card's rulings so far.

Tyler - Good find, and thank god. The players I'd gotten my info from were nearly foaming at the mouth at the idea of playing a four-color spread at a prerelease.

Next time, though, just embed the video though, yeah? That totally deserves to be live in this thread. :D

-edit- Holy crap. Someone just pointed out a gem that most everyone has looked over.

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Plus any card with a mana cost greater than itself. Omniscience, maybe?

Also, there's been an interesting ruling regarding Render Silent. Since counterspells can still target spells that say they specifically can't be countered, it's second effect does still go off, shutting down a player's turn. You won't counter the spell, but you will effectively get to control the majority of their turn. This is useful stuff. -/edit-

[Edited by Academic on 23/Apr/13 at 9:58PM]

Date Posted: Tue Apr/23/13 at 10:48pm

forgot a few
Notion thief it has been climbing as well, which makes sense due to the removal of draw at instant speed, with a 3/1 body to boot
render silent- is about 4 right now, I don't think it will climb more, but it probably won't drop anytime soon. There are not a lot of hard counters in standard right now, so one with built in silence will stick around for awhile
Master of Cruelties- no surprise here, currently he's at $9, personally I think he will climb to about 12. he is a solid card and will see play in standard and modern
Also concerning Progenitor mimic-I think it will go through a big price swing next Wednesday when the new rules comes out. If the copy rules change I think it will drop. If they stay the same, she is able to go infinite upkeep triggers which will take up the price due to her breakability
Blood Baron -will stay up for a while, it might get higher depending how WB unfolds. WB does not have a lot of 5 slot options other then bloodgift or exquisite blood. While bloodgift has good card draw, the fact the baron is immune to pretty much 90% of the removal in standard will cause it to take his place.
Of course Obzedat's Aid is also in the 5 slot, so it will be interesting to see which one ends up taking that place
Shock lands- it looks like the shock lands will not drop in price as much we all hoped, recent information stated they will only be available half as often as they were in the previous sets, so there won't be a flood.

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/24/13 at 1:21am

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Sire of Insanity would work well in a Grixis deck. If you are running Tamiyo and pop her end ability, now you get a free draw 10 at each end step. Better to have cards in hand and ready for a throw down than out of use (if you aren't using methods of casting from the graveyard).

Date Posted: Wed Apr/24/13 at 4:18am

DGM is in the database here http://magiccards.info/query?q=%2B%2Be%3Adgm%2Fen&v=card&s=issue�so you can search for specific issues.

IT, the IT thing is still appropriate for something which qualified ITself as a non-respectable thing. Here's a link for IT, http://www.rainbowfamilyfinder.com/#� maybe there are�people who like to get offended or lectured!-)

If IT wants someone's respect, then IT should behave like a respectable person and drop ITs arrogant behaviours�!-D

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[Edited by knarf_the_dwarf on 8/May/13 at 6:32PM]

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/24/13 at 8:45am

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I was going to make a comment on the crads, but screw this place.

My brother's gay, moron. Most people have gay friends or family and if I saw you say this in front of me I'd kick your stupid teeth down your stupid throat, you pussy.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/24/13 at 2:57pm

Holy fuck.

Knarf, you really are a piece of shit.

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/24/13 at 11:34pm

Okay, moving the fuck away from that horrible fuck...

Can we talk about the better commons and uncommons? Because there are a few cool gems, here.

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Spike Jester is a fun card, and a useful variation of the Goblin Deathraiders. This block has actually been really good for Goblins, and a lot of tribal decks are expected to come out of the last few sets.

Speaking of which - we've got a doubling card out of this set. It's not as exploitable as some options out there - but since it's fueled by colorless mana, this is probably going to see some manner of breaking in the near future. This would definitely work well in a RGU deck with Training Grounds.

Not unlike Electrickery, this is another Overload card that actually works better with the Boros, the Rakdos and/or the Gruul. Expect this card to save a lot of weenie decks over the prerelease weekend.

This guy really should be in every Rakdos deck this upcoming weekend. He makes disposable rush weenie creatures a functional strategy, even if your opponent manages to drag things out, and set up a defense.

Deputy of Acquittals is a pretty solid creature in general. It's a flash bear, and a bounce spell at the same time. Very flexible, very cool.

Anything else?

[Edited by Academic on 25/Apr/13 at 3:22AM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 8:55am

Had to mention this one, it will see limited play due to its flexibility might even see the side board to some token stratagies, but really, 5 mana to do what zealous persecution does with 2

Bronzebeak Moa

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ALL damage prevented plus life gain in a heavy token environment. Control will love this
Korozda Gorgon

Blocks like nobodys business, resets undying, is removal, and keeps renegade krasis counters down for other evolves

Hidden Strings

removal of blockers before the attack, Pseudo vigilance after. the fact it untaps lands as well just puts it over the top
Profit & Loss

Will see limited action, and considering its colors would probably see constructed play as well. drop this turn 3 (arbor elf) turn 4 rancor, gather the townsfolk swing with a 10/8 trampler
Far & Away

remove two creatures for 5 is not bad, but the fact you can get around a creature with hex and such is great, last weekend it took me the same mana and two cards to do what this does
Pilfered Plans

glad dimir is getting some attention
Tithe Drinker

Lifelink and extort, two of my favorite abilities on one card, she won't be taking the place of aristocrat anytime soon but will be a limited bomb
Wake the Reflections

Only good in a few select decks, but will be awesome in those decks, nice the turn after advent worm. Plus the art is awesome

[Edited by gericault5 on 25/Apr/13 at 9:00AM]

Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 10:12am

At least the one mana populate spell is not an instant. At its worst it is one mana for a 2/2 vigilant knight (as far as Selesnya). At its best...Parallel Lives is still standard and Grove of the Guardian was the Selesnya promo card. Progenator Mimic is coming out too.

Four mana for a 5/5 flash wurm is scary. One mana for a 5/5 wurm...that is better than Vexing Devil.

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 11:02am

I kind of skipped a few of those, mostly because they're not really HOLY GOD amazing, y'know? :D

That said, the Gorgon is useful, and adaptable - my only worry is that a) nearly everyone will be playing Selesnya this time around (and those bastards have Wurms), and b) Those not playing Selesnya are likely going to be playing Boros/Rakdos, because of the success of speed decks in the last two prereleases. Either can set you up to deal with a good blocker.

But against anyone else... :D

Hidden strings is cool, and frankly, I liked it more than Trait Doctoring. That said, the Dimir this time around are crazy neutered, and lame. They'd be fantastic if their better spells had average costs - but nope! overcosted everything. Pilfered Plans was the closest to a treat the Dimir got this time around - you can't knock the four card advantage - but there are a lot of cards that take advantage of the graveyard. It'd pair well with the Golgari for GUB, but otherwise, it's sideboard, all the way.

And yeah, Wake the reflections bothers me if only in that the Selesnya don't need more speed, at this point. :D I mean, I'm definitely digging the card, but the Selesnya are the far-and-away winners, as far as cool cards go.

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 5:25pm

@StanAndDeliver: I don't give a penny for a post of a fake account in response to my reaction on ITs provocation. If StanAndDeliever would be a real visitor for more than 4 months of this site then he would realize who is the bad "guy". Or should I say instead of bad guy "who impersonates itself as a lesbian philipean 4 feet tall neurologist in a doctor graduating programm without MTG skills".

To say it in Jason's words: If an incredible act of stupidity is your goal, do the world a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool and stop from further corrupting of the genome.

By the way lesbians and gays remove themselves of the genome by nature of human reproductions.

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@IT: ITs WARNING edit note at the top of the threat and the next reply is a proof for me that the fake acount StanAndDeliver belongs to IT. "alienated new users", this has been one of ITs favourite arguments in our previous arguments. If it was no fake account, then the "Alienated new user count" would be: Knarf: 1; IT: >26 !-D Roasting new users is ITs job!-)

"to start using some homophobic attacks against people"... I reacted on one of ITs provocations also refering to topics from past arguments which I consider to be ITs weak points. Compared to ITs obvious sedition of the French I consider my post innocent.
By the way I consider myself to be part of the majority of the society, this implies to be hetero and liberal-conservativ. And I don't like minorities which try to rule the majority and try to convince them to change their mind. And more I don't like people which impersonate as minorities just to play with politically correctness topics and use them to roast other user. E. g. IT confronted reaper to talk about penis size, but I remember as well that IT talked about lesbian sex and lattex fetish sex providing links to buy such stuff; also I don't think that EntropySpawn is misogynous even if IT claimed so...
And I don't have a problem with holding my (majority) views in a minority environment. The fact that the members of the minority are crying out the loudest may alienate other users which belong to the majority but are afraid to get roasted on their outing.

@Chewy: Go and take a seat in the IT-Girls corner and cry a little.

[Edited by on 26/Apr/13 at 10:06AM]

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 7:05pm

Knarf, you should really consider taking a break from this forum.

This isn't the first time you've alienated new users with your behavior, and it's not the first time you've busted out homophobic hate speech. I wasn't cool with the use of 'pussy' as a denigrative - but that pales in comparison with ignorant rhetoric.

(For the record - gay dudes and chicks breed all the time, though
natural methods such as surrogacy, and artificial methods such as in
vitro fertilization. So, no, that's not correct - it's just hateful
conjecture.)

You're mad enough to break out homophobic hate speech. Over magic cards. That means it's time to take some time off.

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 7:09pm

:D So apparently, price speculators were completely wrong about Ral Zarek. He's just fallen from $30 to $22. Not sure what's lead to such a dramatic drop in price, but it could well just be the consequence of dealers trying to undercut each other.

Whatever the deal is, he just got himself a lot more affordable, much more quickly.

[Edited by Academic on 25/Apr/13 at 7:13PM]

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 7:29pm

@Knarf- Go fuck yourself. Nearly half. my friends are gay, bi, or lesbian, so shut the fuck up and watch what you say. Because if i knew you, i wouldve beat the living shit out of you for those comments.

@academic- There's no telling as to why the price went down, but I'm excited about it. What guilds are everyone going with?

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 9:53pm

@Academic - Where you getting your pricing from? Everyplace I look still has him above $30

@Chewy - I'm planning to go orzhov

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/25/13 at 10:10pm

Geri - well, then, do I have a treat for you. :D

TCGPlayer.com not only has the best prices, as a rule - they also keep track of price fluctuations in a graph form on each card page. You might notice, for example, that Death's Shadow jumped up two bucks around the same time Scotty had shared it's synergy with Varloz.

Ral Zarek is sitting at about $25, atm, but that could well change in either direction - and it's actual value will be determined at the prerelease.

I'm thinking either Boros, or Selesnya. The Boros got a hell of a lot of great cards, and a lot of the mono-red cards that came out compliment the Boros fantastically.

Whereas the Selesnya are clearly the winners of this block, as far as the quality of cards.

[Edited by Academic on 25/Apr/13 at 10:32PM]

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Date Posted: Fri Apr/26/13 at 8:44am

Good news for everyone else: I would have picked Selesnya, but I have no time (if I'm being responsible) this weekend.

Best of luck to everyone going to the prerelease!

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Date Posted: Sat Apr/27/13 at 2:22am

One of my players just turned me on to this idea... :D

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Fun, right? :D

Date Posted: Sat Apr/27/13 at 8:17am

I'd be wary of it during prerelease as it looks like a superfast way to deck yourself without proper percautions.

That being said Laboratory Maniac is still in standard, so this looks like fantastic strategy with it.

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Date Posted: Sat Apr/27/13 at 2:15pm

It's not like the Dimir had a shot at winning this one, anyways. :D

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Date Posted: Sun Apr/28/13 at 4:05pm

I totally fucking won. :D

America weenie, with a heavy slant on the Boros. Dragonshift, Weapon Surge, Teleportal and Mizzium Skin turned my speed Battalion into a fucking blender. :D

Dragonshift saved my ass in the last round, facing an ugly Golgari/Rakdos deck. It's a bit expensive, but it managed to kick the living crap out of a really solid giant blocker defense.

But who cares, right? :D Score one for the Boros.

How did everyone else do?

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Date Posted: Sun Apr/28/13 at 5:31pm

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Exactly, who cares.

Date Posted: Sun Apr/28/13 at 6:28pm

People who play magic, bigotdude. !-)

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Date Posted: Mon Apr/29/13 at 9:54am

went in as the orzhov allied with selensya, but ended up going 5 color, though the blue was only there for turn/burn. alms beast with gift of orzhov or the new armadillo cloak is amazing, yes your opponent gets some life but not as much as you beat down.
round 1 was a beginner, all over the place beat him quickly
round 2 was more interesting, opponent was dimir based, with alot of counters andremoval while he extort and beat me due to pontiff and deathcult rogue,so it took awhile for anything to stick, finally drew into U and fused turn/burn on the attack, killing the 0/1 pontiff with a beckon apperation token and the deathcult withthe direct, alms beast came down after that for the win. 2nd round went back and forth but after his alpha strike i dropped viashno firstblade and dropped Armed him as a 5/5 doublestriker i picked up the match win
round 3 - opponent was also playing 5 color, and got mana screwed the first game, teysa and battering krasis picked up the 1st game. second game was more interesting, we traded back and forth for a bit but managed to get loxodon smiter, haada squad, and carnage gladiator, and then played a fused armed/dangerous to hit for 16 for the win
round 4- straight up america, his battalion came down early while i sunk in mana, finally drew into teysa and dropped her, he forgot her second ability and he swung with his battalion killing then all and leaving me at 5, i swung back the next two turns while he dropped sunhome guildmage with me at 5 andd him at 6, he managed to topdeck catch/release and take my tesya for the win. 2nd game, alms beast comes down turn 4 with unflinching courage the next turn and basically runs over his weenies. game 3 he throws down a warleaders helix on my smiter, i counter with a loss(profit/loss) to wipe out his battalion. I then hit a pump spell flood while he act of treasons my gladiator to complete his battalion to pick you the win
round 5- jund based game 1 bronzebeak moa turn 4 ultimate price and devour turn 5 to clear the board, and then scion of vitu to pump moa to 11/11 and with some earlier smiter hits finished it off the next turn with Burn. game 2 alms beast with orzhov and then Armed for the win

in all i finished 3rd, behind the boros above and a orzhov/radkos blend, and the orzhov finished the maze first

[Edited by gericault5 on 29/Apr/13 at 10:04AM]

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Date Posted: Tue Apr/30/13 at 8:59pm

Geri - that's pretty close to how things wrapped up with my tournament, too. I hated having to set up against any of the Rakdos speed decks, but those bastards were easily dealt with after just soaking the damage for a few turns.

So, yeah. Between this and the other Dragon's Maze thread, I've had the most viewed thread for almost three months, including a one-time high of 3500 views.

Not bad. :D

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Date Posted: Wed May/15/13 at 10:20am

Sooooo... word is, Dragon's Maze was a bust. Fans are balking at the finale of the set - and card prices reflect it. Take a look at the TCGplayer page - the prices of cards took a *massive* dive for the entire previous block.

There are a few cards which are clearly stand-outs - but outside of those, prices have atrophied.

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Date Posted: Wed May/15/13 at 12:59pm