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Title: Best Commander
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 12:18am

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

What's the best commander in your opinion? I only know of a few, but my favorite right now is oona. next would be niv-mizzet, then some vampire one I played against in standard lol.
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 8:04am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

I dont think there is a best commander but my favorites are

Selina, dark angel
Wydwen, the biting gale
Tibor and lumia
And i am currently working on one with Halfdane as the commander

[Edited by gericault5 on 23/Jan/13 at 8:05AM]
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 1:48pm

shmogi
Posts: 220
Joined: 14-Dec-11

AZAMI
PROGENITUS
THAT IS ALL
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 1:49pm

shmogi
Posts: 220
Joined: 14-Dec-11

and kiki jiki
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 2:36pm

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

 Edric, Spymaster of Trest - Not only is he cheap to get out, he encourages players to hit each other, and not you. That's a highly undervalued ability - it's the same reason I love to run the 'Vow of *' cards in my deck. Anything to encourage people to hit everyone else but you. Cards like this add a political element to multiplayer EDH, and I love it.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - See above. She's a 5/5 flyer with first strike that makes your opponents look like more viable targets than you, and then she protects you from half of the damage. That's pretty great.

Omnath, Locus of Mana - Duh. This is the best green card for EDH. The fact that it can serve as a commander is just gravy.

Norin, the Wary - Deal with it.

Kaalia of the Vast - She is a deck type in and of herself. Throw Gisela in a Kaalia deck, and magic happens.



[Edited by Academic on 23/Jan/13 at 2:37PM]
Date Posted: Wed Jan/23/13 at 5:18pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

Here are the generals I use.

Mono Red - Ashling the Pilgrim - CMC of 2, Pay 2 = +1/+1 counter, and late game he can wipe the board.

Naya - Johan - Throw down an army of gargantuans and give them all Vigilance.

Esper - Ertai the Corrupted - A control EDH

Jund - Kresh the Bloodbraided - Constantly kill all creatures including my own all while making her stronger (Woebringer Demon for the win)

Mono Blue - Lorthos the Tidemaker - Stall on Bounce, Countermagic and Drawpower.
Date Posted: Thu Jan/31/13 at 6:09pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

I really hope your calling Ashling a 'he' was a typing error lol.

All muh planned/current generals:

Green: Patron of the Orochi
Black: Seizan, Perverter of Truth
Blue: Blind Seer
Red: Zo-Zu the Punisher
Boros: Currently stuck between Aurelia, the Warleader and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight (the deck is based on Gisela atm)
BUG: The Mimeoplasm
Selesnya: Krond, the Dawn-clad
Rakdos: Kaervek, the Merciless
URW: Numot, the Devastator
WGB: Doran, the Seige Tower
Naya: Rith, the Awakener

[Edited by RedZTape on 1/Feb/13 at 7:03AM]
Date Posted: Thu Jan/31/13 at 9:59pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Sharuum, the Hegemon.

Resurrection + 5/5 flier. That is all.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 1:38am

americanwerewolf
Posts: 79
Joined: 23-Dec-11

I enjoy Jhoira of the Ghitu. Throw in rift elemental, clockspinning, jhoria's time bot and any other card that removes time counters from suspension that I can't think of right now. Jhoira is so very under-appreciated.


Zedruu, the greathearted is awesome with thought lash, illusions of grandeur, delusions of mediocrity, the whole jinx artifacts, and an other cards that benefits you in others' grasps.

Sheoldred, the Whispering One is fun to use. Especially, in a heavy-creature deck.

Kemba, kha regent with tons of equipments.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 10:06am

SirZapdos
Posts: 329
Joined: 21-Jun-11

Uril, the Miststalker can be pretty good. Load him up with auras and it won't take long for him to kill your opponent.

Rafiq of the Many is somewhat similar. A pump spell or two and he can easily OHK an opponent.

Arcum Dagsson is good, in the sense that you can get out a Darksteel Forge, Mycosynth Lattice and Nivenyrral's Disk really quick, and then blow up everything you don't control. It's quite obnoxious, but good.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 10:19am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

I'd forgotten to add Maga, Traitor to Mortals before. She's a fairly cheap X-spell creature that both gives you a big beefstick, a pile of +1/+1 tokens that can be shuffled around, and to top it all of, she's also an X-valued life loss for your opponent. She's just mean.



But I mean I think we can all agree that Phage the Untouchable is the best General ever. :D Like, the absolute best.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 11:33am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Elesh Norn

Jin-gitaxias

Vorinclex

Urabrask

Sheoldred

Glissa the Traitor

No I'm not biased towards phyrexia at all...what made ya'll think a silly thing like that?
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 11:36am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Ish.

What do you usually do to offset the horrific mana costs of those creatures?
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 11:38am

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

Norin- Because screw you (and Confusion in the ranks, but whatever)
Zedruu- I love it when I hand someone an Illusions of Grandeur, another Thought Lash, and the 3rd a Taniwha, its priceless
Phelddagrif- Easily the best Competitive general there is, hes 4 for a 4/4, most think that your playing Group hug, and also he can bounce. I mean who cares if they get 1 card out of it, you get him back with no harm done
Animar- Squirrel Nest+Earthcraft+Any sac outlet (usually phyrexian altar). Yep, thats it
Sharuum- So broken
Karn- See above
Atogatog- OK, Atogatog is my favorite general ever, I love him, hes NEVER a threat to anyone so everyone ignores him, and then I get out Neverending Torment and everyone gets butthurt that their decks dont work.

Here, check out my Atogatog deck, its my baby: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/atogatog-madness-edh/

and because I remember a lot of bronies on this site, Look at my Atogatog :3= http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/227622_4078184555523_244059644_n.jpg
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 11:41am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Norin the Wary is one of the best cards ever made, nevermind the best General.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 1:31pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

Any general that requires a flying chunk of steel in play to cast is pretty hardcore. But also boring as balls. :P
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 3:00pm

flagshippredator
Posts: 101
Joined: 22-Dec-09

Hua Tao, Honored Physician is pretty good for mono-green.

Otherwise...
Wort, Boggart Auntie
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 5:32pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

German + ponies + most unusual 5c general ever = one big ball of lmao XD
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 6:28pm

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Here's one no one else has considered:

Tsabo Tavoc. Think about it. In standard format, Tsabo is just a mana-heavy 7/4 first strike creature with added abilities just in case. In EDH, however, legends are not only played regularly, most decks most decks are made to function off of their generals. Tsabo cannot be hurt by other generals - Tsabo can kill any player's general for two black mana. That's useful as hell.

The main weakness of running Tsabo Tavoc is in that it's hard to make a deck just to exploit it - but since you're running BR, it's easy enough to ferret out a strategy to survive until you can drop him. A really nifty card, make fantastic in EDH format.

A few others I've liked:

Either Braids. Braids, the Cabal Minion is a really quirky removal effect that manages to bypass nearly any form of protection. Braids, the Conjurer Adept is a means of dropping nearly whatever permanent  the hell you want out of your hand.

Their weaknesses is that either variation gives your opponents an advantage, too... but since you're the one playing a deck specializing in either card, you're going to come out ahead. Braids, Conjurer Adept is really, really fun when you're playing political decks.

Momir Vig, Simic Visionary will get you whatever creature you need from your deck. That's fantastic.

His weakness is that he's tiny and is only really good for creature fetch... but that means his weakness is that he does what he's meant to do. So, whatever.

Sun Quan, Lord of Wu - You might as well just say "All creatures you control are unblockable".

The weakness is your opponents will assume you're retarded for using a Portal card. Fortunately, it's such a strong card, who cares what they think? :D

Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant - If you actually play thing, you deserve to get punched in the junk. :D It's a dirty dick move. Cheap to put out, and odds are you're going to pull it off before your life drops.

But it's also pretty fucking amazing. I'm not listing a weakness. This card is amazing, and provided the deck it's in has lifegain, it's a constant pain in the ass.

Kagemaro, First to Suffer - It's Maro, except in black, and with the potential to boardwipe.

His weakness is coupled with how many card are in your hand, which is admittedly a pain in the ass for black. It's still very powerful.

Sliver Legion: Sliver EDH always has one of three commanders - this one is my favorite of the three. It's the least 'dick'-y, and it's still a hella valuable card in and of itself.

The weakness is both in that it's Sliver-exclusive, but also in that it's fully chromatic, and five mana of differing colours can be a pain to gather.

Visara the Dreadful - It's a 5/5 flyer that can tap to kill any creature without pro-black or pro-creature. All of this for six mana. Good enough. :D

It's weakness are minor and not really worth mentioning.

Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero - I like tribal decks. She is a brilliant tribal leader. The ability to fetch any rebel card, is awesome. The ability to bring rebels back into the game from the graveyard is also great.

Her weakness is the fact that she's monocoloured. In a perfect world, she'd be able to hunt down any rebel of any color, and pay for it with whatever mana you have on-hand. In this way, she's good as a non-general card in a multicolour rebel deck. She happens to make a good general, too, but the fact that she's pure white limits her amazing ability somewhat.

Iona, Shield of Emeria - I am not explaining this one, you damn well know why she's amazing.

Her weakness is her mana cost. Too fucking bad. When you cast her, she shuts players down. Expect to get kicked a lot if you use her.

Heartless Hidetsugu - He cuts each players life in half. In red.

The weakness is that it targets you, too, but for God's sakes, it's red. That shouldn't matter much to you. The fact that you are on fire is less important than the fact that your opponent in a much bigger fire.




[Edited by Academic on 1/Feb/13 at 6:29PM]
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 6:53pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

Cabal Minion is banned as a general.
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 6:56pm

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

I enjoy Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 7:01pm

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Well, thank god for that insight.

Anyone else got something? Maybe with an actual valuable opinion? :D
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 7:27pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

Seizan, Perverter of Truth coupled with Kagemaro, First to Suffer makes up for Kagemaro's main weakness and after you have a few dozen cards in hand you can shut down the rest of the game with Uba Mask. Not immune to disruption by any means but it's extremely fun to pull off.

I personally prefer Seizan as the general but as long as they are both in a deck things will go well for you. Black is second in draw power so Kagemaro is very abuse-able.

[Edited by RedZTape on 1/Feb/13 at 7:28PM]
Date Posted: Fri Feb/01/13 at 9:54pm

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Narcinek - you were right about Braids as a general. Notice, however, that she's not banned outright. Good eye, but she still deserves to go in the deck. :D

Since the cowardly French have added him to their EDH ban list, Edric, Spymaster of Trest might as well get a nod here (where he's still legal). There isn't much better, as far as political cards go - the second he's on the field is the second that your opponents become more viable targets than you.
Date Posted: Sat Feb/02/13 at 5:22pm

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

@RedZTape

Thank you :3 I love My German Pony Atogatog, Getting it made me the happiest guy ever! lol
Date Posted: Sun Feb/03/13 at 11:02am

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

Best LD general: Numot the Devastator! Any others?
Date Posted: Sun Feb/03/13 at 4:01pm

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

Well Zo-Zu is Land Hate, I would count him
Date Posted: Sun Feb/03/13 at 4:10pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

Yeah but are there any other legends that actually blow up lands? And I don't mean turning lands into creatures whom you then destroy. XD
Date Posted: Sun Feb/03/13 at 11:21pm

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

No, there isn't
Date Posted: Mon Feb/04/13 at 3:34am

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

That's ok lol. Numot does his job well. I'm also using Zo-Zu in the deck to be extra mean.
Date Posted: Mon Feb/04/13 at 4:40am

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

Related to land destructing commanders:

Mangara of Corondor - can exile lands, but he is hard to play since you need some untap abilities in white/artifact to make him effectiv or plenty of mana in your deck to cast him again.

Maelstrom Wanderer - needs some land destructioin spells with cmc<8 and a deck designed for that: cast the wanderer and destroy all lands!-)

Myojin of Infinite Rage - works only with That Which Was Taken.
Date Posted: Mon Feb/04/13 at 6:04am

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

Mangara is a sick general when you blink them
Date Posted: Mon Feb/04/13 at 12:47pm

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

@Academic- Sol ring + phyrexian metamorph gets you at 6 lands turn two. Played a Jin-gitaxis deck, and it screws people up when it goes off, with or without the commander. Also played against Kresh and some black commander that controls the game basically. Looked up Norin the Wary, and its pretty decent lol. A lot of combos for it :). And Phage is hilarious :)
In commander, what's the best way to go? Aggro or combo?


[Edited by Chewy on 4/Feb/13 at 12:55PM]
Date Posted: Mon Feb/04/13 at 2:43pm

Chiefsizzlechest
Posts: 348
Joined: 18-Oct-10

Chaos

Chaos goes best



and how is that 6 lands on turn 2? O.o
Date Posted: Tue Feb/05/13 at 11:12am

Academic
Posts: 1305
Joined: 29-Mar-12

Two other superstars...

Horde of Notions - There are a lot of amazing elementals, and despite the difficulties of running elemental tribal decks, the Hoard gives you a means of playing exactly what you need, when you need it. This turns the deck's disadvantage of being all over the place into the advantage of flexibility. And it's a 5/5 vigilance, trample and haste creature for CMC5.

Unfortunately, that's 5, chromatic, and that's a meaningful hurdle. But you can play any elemental by virtue of that fact, so even then, the Hoard turns a weakness into a strength.

Gaddock Teeg - is never played, and that's a mistake. A big part of EDH is the assumption that you'll be able to play massive creatures and giant spells - Teeg neuters whole chunks of other people's decks. 

He's tiny, breakable, and he limits your options, but in a deck designed to exploit him, he can pull you out ahead. One fun bit of synergy in you decide on Teeg is to use the Pact cards (the zero cost spells with an 'echo' style cost. Though a bit risk, these allow you to play spells at a bracket above Teeg's limitations - just another thing you'll have above your opponents.


Date Posted: Wed Feb/06/13 at 12:46pm

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

@chief- Turn 1- island, sol ring
Turn 2- island, phyrexian metamorph, copying sol ring
Not 6 lands, technically, but 4 mana sources that tap for 6 :)



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