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They Honestly Won't Ever See It Coming

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Karn, Silver GolemEnlarge

Karn, Silver Golem

{5}

Legendary Artifact Creature — Golem

Urza's Saga

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Whenever Karn blocks or becomes blocked, it gets -4/+4 until end of turn. {1}: Target noncreature artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal to its mana value until end of turn.

4/4

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Thornbite StaffEnlarge

Thornbite Staff

{2}

Kindred Artifact — Shaman Equipment

Morningtide

Read rules for Thornbite Staff
Equipped creature has "{2}, {T}: This creature deals 1 damage to any target" and "Whenever a creature dies, untap this creature." Whenever a Shaman creature enters, you may attach this Equipment to it. Equip {4}

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Date Posted: Tue May/04/10 at 6:45 pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Have out Mana Reflection and have the archers equipped with one staff. Have Karn turn the first staff into a creature equip it with the second staff and the mantle tap for one mana doubled by reflection the archers kill target creature untap the equipped archers and equipped thornbite staff repeat.
Date Posted: Tue May/04/10 at 7:53pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I don't get it...

With two Thornbite Staff + paradise mantle + Mana Reflection + any creature with deathtouch and any creature, you can kill any creature with that combo, no need for Karn...

I can even to that with Llanowar Elf + Mana Reflection + 2 Thornbite Staff + Thornweald Archer... It's the same combo...

And one more thing if an Equipment becomes an artifact it becomes an individual creature and can't be equipped to another creature...


[Edited by shakii23 on 4/May/10 at 7:57PM]
Date Posted: Tue May/04/10 at 7:57pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

That's exactly what I was wondering
Date Posted: Tue May/04/10 at 8:10pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

second staff as creature untaps to add mana to pay for the killing then equipped staff untaps with creature to repeat mana problem solved thats always my big critique of thornbite staff