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Unexpected Summon!

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Myojin of Life's WebEnlarge

Myojin of Life's Web

{6}{G}{G}{G}

Legendary Creature — Spirit

Champions of Kamigawa

Read rules for Myojin of Life's Web
Myojin of Life's Web enters with a divinity counter on it if you cast it from your hand. Myojin of Life's Web has indestructible as long as it has a divinity counter on it. Remove a divinity counter from Myojin of Life's Web: Put any number of creature cards from your hand onto the battlefield.

8/8

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Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 6:02 pm

Giu
Posts: 29
Joined: 02-May-10

Play fierce empath to bring the myojin into your hand. Then play the piper to put the myojin, and subsequently, the rest of the creatures into your hand into play.
Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 6:06pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You didn't play the Myojin from your hand, so it does not get the divinity counter.
Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 6:23pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

It is still an 8/8, and you can play that which was taken, and use its ability to put divinity counters on the moyojin. It also lets you use there ability repeatedly.
Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 6:30pm

Giu
Posts: 29
Joined: 02-May-10

You could just use the empath to bring out your biggest creature. The new Eldrazis are monsters!
I used this in a deck with that which was taken to restore the counter, and a whole bunch of huge creatures with trample, namely Darksteel Colossus.
Half the deck was dedicated to producing as many forests as possible, so I'd have 8 mana on around turn 4-5 anyway. Other cards that go along well are Chord of Calling and Worldly Tutor.
Date Posted: Mon May/03/10 at 9:25am

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

How is it not played from your hand? explain. you use the one card to fish it from your library to your hand then use piper to play it from your hand. Am I missing something or is that not playing it form your hand?
Date Posted: Mon May/03/10 at 9:39am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Myojin gets a diviity counter when you cast it, that is you say what your playing, pay the mana costs, put it on the stack, let it resolve at which time it comes into play with a divinty counter

Elvish piper, braids conjurer adept, tooth and nail, and others-cause you to put a creature into play as a result of the resolution of their ability-teven though it comes from the hand, his is not casting as you do not use any ot the casting steps and the creature put into play this way does not even go on the stack.
Date Posted: Mon May/03/10 at 9:40am

Giu
Posts: 29
Joined: 02-May-10

This is why the 2010 rules changed many cards to say "Cast" from your hand.

The piper puts it into play, but you are not playing/casting it.
That is why you either need to restore the divinity counter, or just pull out a larger creature.
Date Posted: Mon May/03/10 at 10:21am

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

I figured they play as they read. But who am I to argue. piper says play it from your hand. The creature in question says play from hand too. ya'll are the smaties
Date Posted: Mon May/03/10 at 2:30pm

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

'I figured they play as they read. But who am I to argue. piper says play it from your hand. The creature in question says play from hand too. ya'll are the smaties '

Incorrect.

The piper says 'put into play' (or to quote the current card text as of M10 'put a creature card from your hand onto the battlefield') which is entirely different from playing the card.

The Myojin's current oracle text is 'Myojin of Life's Web enters the battlefield with a divinity counter on it if you cast it from your hand.'

If you are putting it into play with the piper, you are NOT casting it, so no divinity counter.

Same goes for the Mythic Eldrazi, they all have a trigger for when you cast the spell, so tricking them into play won't give you the effect.