Part Librarian/Part Blacksmith All Mill Deck

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Anvil of Bogardan

Artifact

Visions

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Players have no maximum hand size. At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card, then discards a card.

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Library of Leng

Artifact

Fifth Edition

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You have no maximum hand size. If an effect causes you to discard a card, discard it, but you may put it on top of your library instead of into your graveyard.

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 8:00 pm

Twogunkid

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Anvil lets you draw but the library keeps you from milling yourself and everyone else is milled

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 8:42pm

lin sivvi

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Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 8:43pm

Twogunkid

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If you are playing mill this just makes it easier add megrim for fun

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 8:45pm

gericault5

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I feel you need to lock down your opponet to make this effective, because they are not getting milled fast enough, in reality they are draw 2 cards per turn discarding 1, which means they are getting to their wincons faster, especially since they can control what they discard. maybe add a megrim and underworld so they are taking damage as well.

also for your deck to abuse this, anvil=madness

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:07pm

CaptinFluffy

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Joined: 22-Feb-10

In response to your Underworld Dreams... Urza's Armor

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:17pm

gericault5

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so you pack a 6 mana card in every one of your decks, because someone might play something that repeatively does 1 damage to you

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:19pm

Twogunkid

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is Urza holding the staff of domination?

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:24pm

gericault5

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No chance, the staff is from mirroden which did not exist until after Urza died

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:28pm

Twogunkid

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it just looks at lot like wasn't urza a planeswalker? It could have ended up on mirrodin.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:34pm

CaptinFluffy

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Joined: 22-Feb-10

I keep the Armor in one deck to offset a friends deck running the Anvil and 4 underworld dreams with 4 megrims and a bunch of draw/discard spells/creatures. The armor kills all underworld dreams damage, and the 1/* creatures like Scalpelexis.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:39pm

gericault5

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Not to go into to many details, but Karn became a planeswalker when urza died, after Karn planeswalked away from Dominara he created Mirroden.

So if your not playing the deck that the armour is in how is it going to help you?

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 9:48pm

CaptinFluffy

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Joined: 22-Feb-10

It's in my 5 color deck that I use most often. I just make sure I use that deck when she pulls out the Und. Dreams deck.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 10:07pm

gericault5

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Now I get it, kind of difficult for me to understand, since in my playgroup we don't tell each other what we're going to play, it tends to keep the game more of a suprise, those "hey I'm playing my sliver deck, how about you play your anti-sliver deck and hose me" situations just seem kind of boring.

Date Posted: Wed Apr/28/10 at 11:30pm

shamwow

Posts: 56
Joined: 26-Mar-10

Because of a lack of other player at my skill level(redringer is the only one I know) I usually just try to play decks where either one could win, and having the best deck is pretty much just bragging rights.

Date Posted: Thu Apr/29/10 at 3:03am

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

There is no such thing as the best deck... It only takes a couple of cards to stop a deck that we think is the best deck ever!

Date Posted: Thu Apr/29/10 at 5:31am

ParadoxRemix

Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

The whole conversation about Urza's Armor is pointless. The combo listed here has nothing to do with damage. It's a very slow mill combo. Adding Underworld Dreams or Megrim would make it not a mill combo, and 4 cards for 3 damage a turn is a terrible idea anyway. Whoever mentioned using madness was brilliant. It's one of the most powerful abilities you can find for casual play. Try finding an old card called Chains of Mephistopheles. It may seem confusing at first, but when combined with the anvil, everyone will draw 2 cards then discard 2 cards each draw phase.

Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 6:33pm

CaptinFluffy

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Joined: 22-Feb-10

Underworld Dreams + Megrim + Bloodchief Ascension = 5 damage for each card drawn/discarded and 2 life gained.

Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 6:39pm

Turbine

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How the **** would you make an anti-sliver deck? The only way I see it is mass removal.

Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 4:07pm

Twogunkid

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4 plague slivers? hivestone? enginered plague? 4 vedalken aethermages?

Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 4:18pm

Turbine

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The only anti-sliver deck cards are cards designed specifically against slivers.

[Edited by Turbine on 2/May/10 at 8:13AM]

Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 5:27pm

lin sivvi

Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Hence, anti sliver deck.

Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 9:17pm

CaptinFluffy

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Joined: 22-Feb-10

Burn decks seem to be the most practical... most slivers are under a toughness of 3.

Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 1:56am

gericault5

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Slivers are a tribe that are weak and patetic on there on and only are a serious threat in numbers when they can take advantage of there abilitys. and it is that fact that leads to the building of most sliver decks. A typical (at least in my playgroup) sliver deck is 60% singleton, with mulitple copies being overlord and homing as they can be used to find the ability you need and there are usually copies for some of the more benefical ones such as crystalinne and gemhide. But thats it most sliver decks are creature based as the addititional spell effects come from the slivers themselves.

So my antisliver decks, or anti-tribal deck to be more precise, doesn;t use plague, hivestone or what not, is WU and works by affectiving the type. Cards like ego erasure, standardize, ovinize, humble, unnatural selection. I don;t need to worry about sliver abilitys if there are none in play. bounce and counters keep the bothersome ones out of action, and a multiple of token cards block attacks, until I draw or tutor my HUMILITY. once humiltiy hits the field it is game over for sliver decks, follow it up with a glorius anthem or crovax for the icing

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