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Assault Suit with Donate

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Erg Raiders

{1}{B}

Creature — Human Warrior

Fifth Edition

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At the beginning of your end step, if this creature didn't attack this turn, it deals 2 damage to you unless it came under your control this turn.

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Date Posted: Mon Nov/24/14 at 5:10 am

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

Assault Suit on the Erg Raiders.
Give them to your Opp each round for 2 damage.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/25/14 at 12:57am

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

Damn, doesn't work. Missed the errata on Card rulings of Erg Raiders...
Date Posted: Tue Nov/25/14 at 9:38am

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

This still works in a duel.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/25/14 at 2:54pm

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

Not really. The Raider was errata'd to prevent this sort of shenanigans. It won't trigger unless your opponent has started their turn controlling it, but the Assault Suit gives it back to you at the end of their turn every time (no way to skip getting it back, either). No one except you will ever control the Erg Raider long enough to actually GET that end step trigger.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/25/14 at 11:00pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

having trouble figuring out if this would work as i have been drinking

bazaar trader at end of your turn giving oppenent the erg while you still control suit

at their upkeep suit will trigger give erg to your opponent-yes they would already be controlling it but the new control effect will override traders.

turn happens at end of turn 2 damage since they controlled erg ince beginning of turn and then returns to you thanks to suits override so you can attack with it

now the part im having trouble with and cant find ruling is the erg was under opponents control since the start, but it still came under opponents control during the turn. i can see why the 2nd control would cause it to not work due to the layering change, however, considering the summoning sickness which the errta is based on. erg was under opps control, even if it is multiple controls still the same opponent
Date Posted: Tue Nov/25/14 at 11:32pm

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

Actually, if you give them the Raider with a Bazaar Trader, you won't get it back. When Assault Suit ends, it gives it back to whoever controlled it last. We just usually operate as if its you because you normally can't have equipment attached to opposing creatures.

So if you choose to use the Assault Suit trigger, it will go back to their own control, not yours. They still won't be able to attack you because of the suit, but that's about it.