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Murderous Mill

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Murderous Redcap

{2}{B/R}{B/R}

Creature — Goblin Assassin

Shadowmoor

Read rules for Murderous Redcap
When this creature enters, it deals damage equal to its power to any target. Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 5:09 am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Really the Altar can be any permanent with a 'Sacrifice a creature' ability.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 5:34am

Skybreak22
Posts: 327
Joined: 01-Feb-10

I like this....  ;)   And can be played,  G/W/R  or  G/W/B  or just G/W with green's multiple mana producers.  Very nice.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 8:17am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Burn and mill, but what would kill him first?
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 8:24am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Burn, unless they have something which stops them being burnt (like Worship and a prot-red creature)

Mostly it's sponsored by the Department of Redundancy Department :)
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 8:29am

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

That would take a long time to mill them. But its a gret combo/2 for 1
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 10:41am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Not that long really, it takes 3 cards each time you sacrifice the Redcap, by the time you have the combo out they'll probably have around 45 cards left in their deck, only need to repeat 15 times or so. Remember in real life you can 'shortcut' if your opponents don't have any responses and you can demonstrate the combo (e.g. you say 'I do this 10 times, mill for 30').
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 10:43am

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

I did not consider that you could pull this as many times in one turn as you want. nICE.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 12:10pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

Very Nice...
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 6:24pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Nice Nice Baby - Vanilla Nice
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 6:24pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Nice Nice Baby - Vanilla Nice
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 6:25pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

also, try my old UG combo

Altar + Intruder Alarm + Llanowar Elf + Imperious Perfect

requires 1 more card, but still fun lol
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 6:35pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

Wait wouldn't it still come into play w/ a -1/-1 counter?

Even though it gets two +1/+1 counters I think it would still have a -1/-1 counter.

Is there a rule that says that anytime a -1/-1 is on a creature that if they get a +1/+1 counter added to it that they cancell eachother out?

Humm...
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 8:49pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup, that's the rule... +1/+1 counters cancel -1/-1 counters and vice versa...


[Edited by shakii23 on 22/Apr/10 at 8:50PM]
Date Posted: Thu Apr/22/10 at 8:55pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

What is the number of this rule?
Date Posted: Fri Apr/23/10 at 3:06am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

120.2. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it. See rule 704.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules_20100201.txt

(704 is the clarification of state based actions)

Realised that for the Mill part you can replace the Sigil Captain with Juniper Order Ranger and the Redcap with any persist creature, e.g. use Kitchen Kinks to gain infinite life. Less colours required for this, plus you end up with a big creature too.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/23/10 at 12:28pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

This Combo is amazing then. Thanks for that too.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/23/10 at 6:59pm

Mike_D
Posts: 101
Joined: 22-Apr-10

This combo is a work of art
Date Posted: Thu May/20/10 at 4:22am

Lightsteel
Posts: 86
Joined: 10-May-10

1 way it can be stopped is with with RoE legendary eldeazies, but there ways around it




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