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Protean!

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Protean Hulk

{5}{G}{G}

Creature — Beast

Dissension

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When this creature dies, search your library for any number of creature cards with total mana value 6 or less, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

6/6

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Date Posted: Tue Jun/10/14 at 7:08 pm

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

This done correctly as is gives you a turn 2 win with as little black mana as possible. Couldn't find any creature where sacrifice of a creature was free to keep it going, but two protean hulk triggers helps tremendously. If anyone knows of a bant creature that does such, please let me know.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/10/14 at 7:58pm

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

A combo like this needs an explanation.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/11/14 at 9:52am

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

This does not work as I assume that Chewy thought it would.
When Saffi hits the battlefield the Hulk already is in the graveyard. therefore Saffi cannot target the Hulk to put him back for a second Trigger of the Hulk.

You may add a ton of 0 cmc creatures, 1 Karmic Guide, several Wild Cantor and Thinder wall and Gluttonous Slime.

then you still Need something for giving haste.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/11/14 at 11:44am

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

It works exactly as planned, just didn't have the time to post it all yesterday with an explanation. Karmic guide was a piece to be pulled when carrion feeder was, that way protean could be repeatedly sac'd to search for any creatures in your deck with a cmc of 6 or less. Anger was another one of these pieces. Saffi was just there because I couldn't remember a name of a card. It's a bit of a tricky setup, but it's meant to be to catch an opponent off guard. You'll pretty much play your deck while they sit there. Aurelia was another piece just for fun that truly has nothing to do with the combo.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/12/14 at 5:37am

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

"It works exactly as planned, just didn't have the time to post it all yesterday with an explanation."
Take the time, no one understands your combo which is not complete and with cards not part of the combo.

"Anger was another one of these pieces."
Anger requires a mountain on the battlefield to make it work. At least you need a dual land in your set up or similar.

"Saffi was just there because I couldn't remember a name of a card." Again, without explanation we cannot understand the combo especially when posting cards with less relationsship to the combo..

"Aurelia was another piece just for fun that truly has nothing to do with the combo."
Flame-Kin Zealot would have something to do with the combo.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/13/14 at 9:49am

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

I think I have it nailed down from his corrections: Classic flash-hulk combo, grabbing Karmic Guide (resurrecting the hulk with its entry trigger) and Carrion Feeder.
Sacrifice the hulk and guide to the feeder (current death count is 3, for the Caller of the Claw to come shortly). With the latest hulk trigger, grab Caller of the Claw and something else. The Caller sees 3 deaths this turn and gives you three bear tokens. Sac all five of the new creatures.
In the end, you have spent five cards and three tokens to make an 8/8 zombie.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/13/14 at 3:22pm

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gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

The mistake is not that bad though. end of opponents turn two

1-flash in hulk and find saffi, caller, carrion put them into play
2-with callers ability on the stack, sac saffi for caller, then sac caller to carrion - 3 deaths
3-caller returns, putting ability on stack- 2 counts of ability on stack
4-sac caller to carrion and carrion to itself -5 deaths
5-both caller abilitys resolve for 5 tokens each

10 2/2's attacking on turn 3 is not that bad, throw in a bunch of 0 mana's and you got a win
Date Posted: Fri Jun/13/14 at 4:24pm

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

Sorry Knarf and teraken, had to pull 75 hours this week with internet on my phone down.This wasn't my biggest concern. And geracult got it
Date Posted: Fri Jun/13/14 at 9:44pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

how can i "get it" when you never had it. I simply provided a way to make your mistake decent, but you never intended it to happen this way.
when you got the time to post a 5 card combo, take a few minutes to write a brief description instead of the mumbo jumbo you posted, because without a good description i took that to read exactly as knarf did, these were the cards you intended you just didnt know the specfics on pulling it off
Date Posted: Fri Jun/13/14 at 11:43pm

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

You found a way to make it work. That's how you got it. I don't post much anymoretat works because it shows how creative people can be. I was hoping someone would take the time to look at it differently than the rest. But it also showed more from those who replied. I made a bet with a friend that I could post a few cards that had the potential to work together and someone would figure out a way to do so. Not only that, but it was a psychology exercise that I modified to fit this website. So, thank you for your post. It is much appreciated.