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Cauldron of Souls

{5}

Artifact

Shadowmoor

Read rules for Cauldron of Souls
{T}: Choose any number of target creatures. Each of those creatures gains persist until end of turn. (When it dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)

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Date Posted: Mon Apr/12/10 at 11:01 pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well?
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 6:22am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Not quite getting the combo here. Care to explain?
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 12:32pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

Thats some complicated combo. Im starting to wonder if it is actully a combo or a bunch of cards that work well together? I understand that you can take the -1-1 persist counters off the sacrificed creatures but I dont understand how all white creatures having +1+1 has anything to do with it. If I figure this out (which I probilly won't) do I get a prize?
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 2:19pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

SD.... or was it SB, whatever
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 2:45pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I get it!
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 3:01pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

explain.
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 3:11pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

He gives a creature Persist, then sacrifices it with Ashnod's Altar. When it comes back, remove the -1/-1 counter with Medicine Runner. Now sac the same creature with Phrexian Vault. The only problem is that you can't untap the Vault again unless you have a second Dross Scorpion.
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 3:11pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I have no idea what Honor of the Pure is for though.
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 3:37pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

What's Honor of the Pure for guys?
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 4:31pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

mecidine runner is the sac'd creature, it will remove its own -1 counter however it would die having 0 toughness before that happens honor keeps it alive with the counter

though dross makes no sense as it can be saced to the vault and persisted back but would die before it loses the counter unless he ment glorious anthem instead of honor
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 4:59pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

ahhh. that makes sence. damn, I need to get smarter.
Date Posted: Tue Apr/13/10 at 5:54pm

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

I get that you can sac the Medicine runner to the altar after giving it Persist with the Cauldron, and then Honor keeps it alive long enough to remove the -1/-1 counter with it's ability.

But how do you untap the Cauldron to repeat the sequence? You can sacrifice the Dross Scorpion to the Altar to do it once, sure. Twice with Persist (though it will die straight away the second time for 0 toughness).

It would work if you swapped the 'Runner with a Clockwork Beetle. One of the Beetle's counters will cancel the -1/-1 counter from persist, and when you sac the beetle the Scorpion will trigger.
Date Posted: Wed Apr/14/10 at 3:22am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Sorry guys... wrong combo.. I just posted this combo assuming that the rule text of Dross Scorpion was "Whenever Dross Scorpion or another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may untap target artifact." I missed the artifact creature part. Sorry guys..