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clawed to death

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Nim Deathmantle

{2}

Artifact — Equipment

Scars of Mirrodin

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Equipped creature gets +2/+2, has intimidate, and is a black Zombie. (A creature with intimidate can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or creatures that share a color with it.) Whenever a nontoken creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, you may pay {4}. If you do, return that card to the battlefield and attach this Equipment to it. Equip {4}

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Date Posted: Thu Feb/28/13 at 5:01 pm

reaper
Posts: 436
Joined: 23-Jul-11

This is pretty simple. 1st get altar chamber and mantle in play.2nd play caller of the claw, chamber will make a myr now sacrifice caller of the claw and the myr to the altar. This will make 4 mana now use it to put caller back in play with deathmantle. Since 2 creatures already died caller makes 2 creatures as well as chamber making one rinse and repeat. Infinite mana and creatures. There are many boom cards i could add but this is the combo.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/28/13 at 6:34pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

No matter how many tokens you sac you'll only get 1 bear. There is only 1 nontoken creature in this combo. Sure you can get infinite bears and myr but your mana will all be spent on deathmantle.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/28/13 at 7:19pm

reaper
Posts: 436
Joined: 23-Jul-11

True however the bear keeps dying so each time it creates more and more creatures by itself dying so many times
Date Posted: Thu Feb/28/13 at 7:21pm

reaper
Posts: 436
Joined: 23-Jul-11

Hmmmm now i gotta take a look at this much deeper amd c what i find.
Date Posted: Fri Mar/01/13 at 9:07am

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

You keep on sacrificing Caller of the Claw, so that increases the nontoken death count, which increases the number of bear tokens that would be created which increases the number that you can sacrifice for mana.

My reasoning is, what would happen if you used Raise Dead on Caller to return it to your hand after sacrificing it, then cast it and sacrificed it again? Your opponent would have no way of knowing if you sacrificed the SAME Caller of the Claw or a DIFFERENT one you may or may not have in your hand, thus when it enters the battlefield, it is considered a "different" Caller of the Claw even if it is the same physical real life card. This allows the kill count to increase and allows you to make more bears.

Your combo took me a while to figure out, but from the looks of it, it does work.
Date Posted: Fri Mar/01/13 at 10:42am

reaper
Posts: 436
Joined: 23-Jul-11

Thanks for giving proper review of this knew it worked but redz almost got my belief that it didnt.
Date Posted: Fri Mar/01/13 at 12:34pm

RedZTape
Posts: 293
Joined: 13-Jan-13

I still don't see the infinite mana in this.
Date Posted: Fri Mar/01/13 at 12:40pm

reaper
Posts: 436
Joined: 23-Jul-11

Think of it like this redz if i start making infinite creatures with altar on the field hy could i not sacrifice my infinite creatures for infinite mana