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Immune to damage.

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Mycosynth LatticeEnlarge

Mycosynth Lattice

{6}

Artifact

Darksteel

Read rules for Mycosynth Lattice
All permanents are artifacts in addition to their other types. All cards that aren't on the battlefield, spells, and permanents are colorless. Players may spend mana as though it were mana of any color.

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Date Posted: Sun Oct/28/12 at 3:36 am

Kethiju
Posts: 225
Joined: 24-Jul-12

Not all that hard to curcumvent honestly, but without a contingancy plan, this can be a major problem. You might be asking, "Why use the lattice and the leonin?" Well my dear children, the lattice turns everything into an artifact and the leonin covers the privileged position's open spot while it's an artifact.
Date Posted: Sun Oct/28/12 at 5:03am

spiderman1100
Posts: 354
Joined: 19-Apr-12

take out Privileged Postion first! that the only way to win!
Or mill.

Try asceticism too.
Date Posted: Sun Oct/28/12 at 7:59am

XxMeizterxX
Posts: 112
Joined: 01-Nov-11

Is there two combos in this ?

The golem with the lattice ? The way I see this, the golem is all color, but becomes colorless because of the lattice. So, the enchant is useless because you do not control a permanent of each color. Maybe add naturalize to destroy your own lattice when all is in play ! sound fun ... but very tricky
Date Posted: Sun Oct/28/12 at 5:11pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Yeah, the lattice sort of ruins everything. It makes all permanents colorless, meaning you won't be able to be immune to all damage. It's an easy fix though - just replace the lattice+Abunas with a second priveleged position. It's less cards, it's cheaper, and then it will work as you want it to.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 2:00am

Kethiju
Posts: 225
Joined: 24-Jul-12

Didn't give that part any thought honestly. The Transguild Courier says it's all colors, including colorless from the grip. If the Lattice is in play first, then the golem will retain the all color text. Simply change the order of castings. Newest color rule is the one that sticks.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 6:56am

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11


613.1. The values of an object’s characteristics are determined by starting with the actual object. For a card, that means the values of the characteristics printed on that card. For a token or a copy of a spell or card, that means the values of the characteristics defined by the effect that created it. Then all applicable continuous effects are applied in a series of layers in the following order:

613.1a Layer 1: Copy effects are applied. See rule 706, “Copying Objects.”

613.1b Layer 2: Control-changing effects are applied.

613.1c Layer 3: Text-changing effects are applied. See rule 612, “Text-Changing Effects.”

613.1d Layer 4: Type-changing effects are applied. These include effects that change an object’s card type, subtype, and/or supertype.

613.1e Layer 5: Color-changing effects are applied.

613.1f Layer 6: Ability-adding and ability-removing effects are applied.

613.1g Layer 7: Power- and/or toughness-changing effects are applied.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 1:23pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

With lattice in play, transguild will always be colorless no matter the order they were played in

When double sided cards were introduced, wizards created color indicators to give the flipside a color. In the process they went back over the handful of cards that gave a color via text, and removed the text to give them color indicators instead. As a result transguild is now a 5 color vanilla creature. No text means nothing to override lattice.

Actually in this case it wouldnt matter that much even if it retained the text it would still be colorless. Transguilds printed text is a characteristic defining ability that defines the color at the start of the game. You can't have a timestamp earlier then that, lattice will always be the most recent
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 2:51pm

Kethiju
Posts: 225
Joined: 24-Jul-12

There is a conflict of text between Transguild Courier and Mycosynth Lattice. The Transguild Courier has the text "This card is all colors. (even if this card isn't in play)" The Lattice says it's colorless even if not in play. I'll ask one of my higher level judge buddies about this one.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 4:41pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Keithju, look at Transguild Courier in Gatherer. Ignore the paper card for a second. You'll see that in Gatherer, they REMOVED Transguild Courier's text. There's no text to conflict with. And even if there were, Gericault and Boyachi are right about the layers - timestamps are irrelevant here.

And even if it did work with the Courier and Lattice, it doesn't change the fact that it's still easier to replace lattice+Abunas with a second Privileged Position. You're holding tight to your original combo and I just can't figure out why.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 6:02pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

Holding this post for a later time.


[Edited by Boyachi on 29/Oct/12 at 6:04PM]
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 7:57pm

shmogi
Posts: 220
Joined: 14-Dec-11

what if shatterstorm?
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 8:52pm

Nickosis
Posts: 154
Joined: 31-Mar-12

Well if all else fails try: Courier, Mourner's Shield and anything that untaps an artifact. That should still work, same with something like Mirror Golem and Courier.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/29/12 at 11:45pm

shmogi
Posts: 220
Joined: 14-Dec-11

cool story brah.
Date Posted: Tue Oct/30/12 at 3:39pm

Kefka
Posts: 535
Joined: 30-Oct-12

HA! Mirror Golem and Courier. Protected from all colors, artifacts and creatures. LOVE IT!
Date Posted: Sun Nov/24/13 at 12:09pm

JonnyIrish
Posts: 47
Joined: 24-Nov-13

Add in Darksteel Forge to protect the cards that become Artifacts
Date Posted: Wed Nov/27/13 at 12:36am

Chewy
Posts: 841
Joined: 18-Jan-13

It does say cards that aren't in play are colorless. Never says they can't have all colors once resolved. Just states that they are artifacts in addition. I don't see why this couldn't work unless it were errata'd in the past




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