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Combo Name: Channel Death's Shadow Submitted By: lin sivvi
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Channel
 Sorcery GG Beta, Uncommon

Fireball
 Sorcery XR Darksteel, Uncommon

Platinum Angel
 Artifact Creature - Angel 7 4/4 10th Edition, Rare

Death's Shadow
 Creature - Avatar B 13/13 Worldwake, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $3.22
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 12:12 pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Channel, and pay all your life but one, then play, Platinum Angel, then play Deaths Shadow, then pay another life to channel, bringing you down to 0 then cast fireball targeting yourself for 13, Death's Shadow should become a 26/26 :)
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 12:17pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Or you can just pay unlimited life and make Deathshadow an Infinity/Infinity.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 12:26pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

  • The amount of life converted into mana is not a decision
    as part of the casting of Channel. [WotC Rules Team 1994/02/01]
    You
    first cast Channel then you can convert life to mana for the rest of
    the turn. You do not convert it during casting.


  • You cannot pay life points you don't have. In
    other words, you cannot Channel yourself below zero life.     [D'Angelo
    1995/08/10]

  • The ability is played as a mana ability. [Barclay
    1999/12/01]

  • Vintage tournaments (see Rule
    911    ) have restricted this card since 2000/10/01. It was previously
    banned from 1995/11/01 until 2000/10/01 and it was restricted from
    1994/03/23 to 1995/11/01.

  • Legacy tournaments (see Rule
    912    ) have always banned this card.

  • Extended tournaments (see Rule
    913    ) have always banned this card.

  • Standard (Type 2) tournaments (see Rule
    914    ) have banned this card since 1995/11/01. It was previously
    restricted until 1995/11/01.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 12:27pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Well Darn, oh well.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 3:04pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

also, it doesnt get +1/+1 for each point below zero your life is at.  it can only get negative counters for each positive point of life you have. so just channel for 7, cast your angel, then cast this big boy. youll be set up for 17 damage in no time, and if they want to win, they will have to deal with the angel first, THEN the other one.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 3:29pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

nice combo, just add a way to trample so its not chumped and your set and yes death shadow does get +1/+1 for each negative point that you have, so it would be 26/26
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 3:57pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Why not just use the fireball on your opponent to begin with?
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 5:19pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

IT DOESNT GET +1/+1 FOR EACH NEGATIVE POINT OF YOUR LIFE TOTAL (he said for the second time.)
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 6:42pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Clearly we need a rule citation here
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 7:19pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

you can say it as many times as you want doesn't mean your right.  straight from the gatherer:

If your life total is less than 0 and an effect (such as the one from an opponent's Abyssal Persecutor) is keeping you from losing the game, Death's Shadow's ability will actually increase its power and toughness. For example, if your life total is -2, Death's Shadow gets +2/+2.

 

 


[Edited by gericault5 on 2/Apr/10 at 7:26PM]
Date Posted: Fri Apr/02/10 at 7:35pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

then i stand corrected, and its still retarded lol.  i remember when  your life total would revert to 0 at the end of each phase when you were below 0.  so if THAT has changed, then yes, im wrong.  and if it hasnt, then its about half right (since it wont be very practical)
Date Posted: Sat Apr/03/10 at 4:11pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

actually that was never a rule.  but was spread by a large amount of players

before, you wouldn't lose until the end of the phase, but you could go as far into the negitives as you wanted



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