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one red...4/3

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Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:12 am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

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pretty sure this lets you get passed vexing devil's enter play ability.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:15am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

They aren't paying life. It's dealing damage to them.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:16am

SirZapdos
Posts: 329
Joined: 21-Jun-11

Vexing Devil deals damage and the sacrifice is a triggered ability, not an activated ability, so I don't think the Angel helps at all. Torpor Orb and Sundial of the Infinite can get around it.

I think the Angel prevents people from using abilities like Skirsdag Flayer's ability. It also hoses Phyrexian mana and Griselbrand.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:17am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

oh damn.  

vexing devil is already way overpowered the way it is.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:24am

Squillis
Posts: 424
Joined: 20-Nov-08

yea, the angel prevents the saccing or paying life to Cast/Activate, it doesn't prevent doing so as part of an effect.  Because the ability off the devil is a trigger there is no cost, just a trigger condition.

Static Abilities - Creates an effect that lasts as long as the duration states or while the card is in the appropriate zone
Triggered Abilities - have a condition that causes the ability to trigger and be placed on the stack.  They are typically formatted At/When/Whenever <Condition>, <Effect>
Activated Abilities - a cost is payed and the ability effect is put on the stack.  They are formatted <Cost>:<Effect> and Always have a colon inbetween the cost and effect.


[Edited by Squillis on 12/Apr/12 at 11:26AM]
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:26am

SirZapdos
Posts: 329
Joined: 21-Jun-11

It would be fun to Fling him in response to your opponent opting to take the 4 damage.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:26am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

understood

thanks guys
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 11:29am

Squillis
Posts: 424
Joined: 20-Nov-08

@Zapdos - the trigger must fully resolve before you can cast a spell.  If you both pass priority with the trigger on the stack you will not be able to fling him until after your opponent elects to take the damage or not and the possible sacrifice takes place.  If you fling him before the trigger resolves then your opponent can elect not to take the damage, though, if they're dumb or trying to get Final Hour active they could still elect to take the 4 damage :/
Date Posted: Thu Apr/12/12 at 3:09pm

bolobasher
Posts: 99
Joined: 28-Feb-12

this card is op to max no wmake a "Clone" deck with it have a good day :)

 
Date Posted: Fri Apr/13/12 at 12:13pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

SirZapados, that is a brilliant idea.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/13/12 at 2:36pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Except that it doesnt work!
Date Posted: Fri Apr/13/12 at 4:56pm

SirZapdos
Posts: 329
Joined: 21-Jun-11

Then Brimstone Volley will have to do.