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Thrun, The Vigorous

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Vigor

{3}{G}{G}{G}

Creature — Elemental Incarnation

Lorwyn

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Trample If damage would be dealt to another creature you control, prevent that damage. Put a +1/+1 counter on that creature for each 1 damage prevented this way. When Vigor is put into a graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it into its owner's library.

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Date Posted: Sat Mar/17/12 at 11:21 am

Manshoon
Posts: 23
Joined: 17-Mar-12

Any damage that comes your way whether it is direct damage or someone swings a creature at you, you can redirect the damage with the general's regalia (do not block). You pay the 3 mana and send the damage at Thrun. Vigor's ability makes Thrun get a +1 +1 counter for each damage taken. This gives you a huge hexproof regenerating troll at your disposal that doesn't take damage and keeps getting bigger if it is blocked.
Date Posted: Sat Mar/17/12 at 3:12pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

trololol
Date Posted: Sat Mar/17/12 at 8:19pm

Jingbo
Posts: 72
Joined: 21-Dec-11

good combo if you lose the thrull ... you can't redirect damage from your opponent to a hexproof creature right?
Date Posted: Sat Mar/17/12 at 9:45pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Correct...but to be honest why even play Vigor? The Damn  Troll is broke as it is...
Date Posted: Sat Mar/17/12 at 11:46pm

Manshoon
Posts: 23
Joined: 17-Mar-12

You can target your own creature with the General's Regalia even if it has hexproof. Hexproof allows you to target him (since you control him and you're the one giving him the damage), but not your opponents.

Yes, the Troll is a bit broken...however there are still ways to kill him. In this combo there are less ways to kill him since he can't take damage. Also, there's less of a need to keep 2 mana available for his regenerate ability. Including Vigor is important because it makes it so you redirect damage the doesn't hurt you or any creatures you control, and it helps the broken Troll get bigger. I've used this combo in EDH format, it's formidable.
Date Posted: Sun Mar/18/12 at 7:59am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Ohh...that's right...hexproof is shroud 2.0...my bad... ^^;
Date Posted: Sun Mar/18/12 at 9:48am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

The regeneration isn't that useful. It's already really "tough" and un-targetable.
Date Posted: Sun Mar/18/12 at 10:39am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Yea, that 4/4 and Hexproof thing alone is enough to make me sigh when it comes out.
Date Posted: Sun Mar/18/12 at 11:24am

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

Hey. There's still Black Sun's Zenith and Day of Judgement.
Date Posted: Sun Mar/18/12 at 11:54am

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

You mean wrath of god?! Yes, there are cards that kill it, there just arent as many as for normal creatures, and it cant be countered!
Date Posted: Mon Mar/19/12 at 4:56pm

Manshoon
Posts: 23
Joined: 17-Mar-12

You are probably thinking his Regenerate isn't THAT useful because when you use Thrun, you don't end up using Regenerate very much. This is because it is a great deterant. People won't want to swing at you when you've got something with good power that is cheap to regenerate (unless they happen to be a noob). Also, players are less likely to cast spells that do damage to all creatures like Earthquake, since he has Regenerate for a green and a colorless. Anyways, I think its more valuable then it seems. Thrun makes an awesome General in EDH format. I've got a deck built around him.
Date Posted: Mon Mar/19/12 at 4:58pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

As a voltron general, hes not nearly as good as uril, rafiq, or geist!
Date Posted: Mon Mar/19/12 at 5:05pm

Manshoon
Posts: 23
Joined: 17-Mar-12

Don't get me started on Uril. He's so horribly overpowered. I've got a friend that spent $200 on an EDH deck with Uril as the General and there's absolutely no reason to play against him. In order to beat this deck you must use something even cheaper, like getting unlimited creatures fast or some equivalent. Try defeating Uril once he is enchanted with "Flickerform". Even if you do manage to win, you'll feel dirty afterwards. Takes the fun right out of the game.
Date Posted: Mon Mar/19/12 at 5:55pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

It's already strong enough to absorb their attacks though.
Date Posted: Mon Mar/19/12 at 6:59pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

I dont waste mana on flickerform, i just go straight to armageddon/ravages!