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Herald of Leshrac

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Flying Cumulative upkeep—Gain control of a land you don't control. (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.) This creature gets +1/+1 for each land you control but don't own. When this creature leaves the battlefield, each player gains control of each land they own that you control.

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Date Posted: Sat Feb/18/12 at 9:24 pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Take control of their creatures. I think. . .

Add Panoptic Mirror

[Edited by Turbine on 18/Feb/12 at 9:25PM]
Date Posted: Sat Feb/18/12 at 9:37pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

Throw in Living Plane. That way the Lands you steal become copies of Herald of Leshrac
Date Posted: Sun Feb/19/12 at 12:55pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Mechanist, he's making everything a copy of Dryad Arbor, not the Herald.

I think the key thing here is how you stack your upkeep triggers. Mirrorweave imprinted on Panoptic Mirror should work as long as you control the triggers so that Herald's cumulative upkeep triggers first. He'll then become a copy of the Arbor. So you'll be able to take everyone's creatures and lands, but you won't ever have the Herald to use as a beatstick.

Although, now that I think about it, can mirrorweave copy a card's supertype like "Land". I don't see why it wouldn't, but there's probably some secret rule that would state otherwise. Hmmm, someone should look that up.
Date Posted: Mon Feb/20/12 at 2:54pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

This would take some cool stack manipulation, but wouldn't the Herald becoming something else trigger his ability that gives back the lands?
Date Posted: Mon Feb/20/12 at 3:29pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Its not leaving play!

Speaking of which, you could use phasing to steal peoples lands permanently!
Date Posted: Wed Feb/22/12 at 6:29pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Fair enough that he's not leaving play, but wouldn't that mean that any effects he brought with him also go away or would they just reinstate when he came back?

I love all these really confusing, yet legit, rules calls.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/22/12 at 8:15pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

If there's an enchantment that gives Phasing, that would be amazing!
Date Posted: Wed Feb/22/12 at 9:04pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

teferi's curse or shimmer

Though maybe I am missing the benefit of how phasing can help this.

you want to keep the lands just terror theherald while its arbor