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2nd turn forge

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Arcum DagssonEnlarge

Arcum Dagsson

{3}{U}

Legendary Creature — Human Artificer

Coldsnap

Read rules for Arcum Dagsson
{T}: Target artifact creature's controller sacrifices it. That player may search their library for a noncreature artifact card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

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Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 9:05 am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

get lightning greaves out first turn, then lay out dagsson and the transmogrant on the second. equip dagsson with the greaves and turn him into an artifact with transmogrant. sac him and lay out the forge.
Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 10:07am

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

He cant target himself!
Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 10:56am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

why not? he appears to be a legal target.
Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 11:00am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

The boots give him shroud, meaning he can't be targeting. I'm also confused about how you accumulated 5 mana on the second turn to play the Transmorgrant and Arcum.
Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 11:10am

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

duh sorry fail on my part...and if this was possible i could still pull this off second turn if i laid out an ancient tomb and a sol ring first turn and then an island the second.
Date Posted: Thu Jan/19/12 at 1:45pm

knarf_the_dwarf
Posts: 1370
Joined: 30-Nov-11

first: thank you all for getting back to serious discussion and leaving trolling...!-))

second: replace Ashnod's Transmogrant  by  Then you also don't need the Ancient tomb first turn, just target the Orni, keep the Dagsson and search for the Forge.
[Edited by knarf_the_dwarf on 19/Jan/12 at 1:46PM]

[Edited by knarf_the_dwarf on 19/Jan/12 at 1:46PM]
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:51am

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

what about Tinker? You could play a Chrome Mox (or any 0 drop colored mana producer) and an Ancient Tomb first turn, tap them both, and then sac the Chrome Mox to the Tinker and find any (not just non-creature) artifact that you want on turn 1. Then again, Tinker is stupidly broken.
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:06pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Tinker is banned in every format but vintage!
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:32pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

What Pinkie said.
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:34pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Also if youre tinkering, you go for blightsteel colossus!
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:38pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I'd go for Gleemax! XD
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:39pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Gleemax is banned in more formats than tinker!
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 12:41pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

ಠ_ಠ
Date Posted: Fri Jan/20/12 at 1:51pm

Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11

actually they're both banned in all formats except one. gleemax is legal in unformat and tinker is legal in vintage.




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