Dread Ripple

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Phyrexian Dreadnought

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Dreadnought

Mirage

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Trample When this creature enters, sacrifice it unless you sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater.

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Reality Ripple

Instant

Mirage

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Target artifact, creature, or land phases out. (While it's phased out, it's treated as though it doesn't exist. It phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)

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Date Posted: Mon Dec/19/11 at 8:49 pm

Boyachi

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Joined: 02-Nov-11

I'm trying to figure out how I missed this before, or if there is some strange rule that allows you to sacrifice things that aren't in play.

Turn one island
Turn two land
Turn three land, Phyrexian Dreadnought and play reality ripple as it comes into play to phase it out.
Turn four it phases in, which is no problem because phasing does not trigger coming into play abilities.

I mean, it is clearly not as fast as stifle, but if it does work, Reality Ripple could get new life on the market.

EDIT: Luckly this didn't work back in the day when both cards were released, thanks to old phasing rules.

[Edited by Boyachi on 19/Dec/11 at 8:53PM]

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 7:00am

Turbine

Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

This seems legit. Here's the rulings I found on Phyrexian Dreadnought.

Phasing in does not trigger "enters the battlefield" abilities, so you don't have to sacrifice again if it phases in.

If the Dreadnought is no longer on the battlefield when the triggered ability resolves, you may still choose either option.

Burn the house down! The shackles of society no longer bind us.

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 8:11am

PinkiePie

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Joined: 10-Sep-11

So you play the dreadnaught, then in response to its ability you ripple it, then choose to sacrifice it, but it cant be sacrificed because it phased out?!

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 10:14am

T}{3 0l\l3 VV}{0 1S

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Yes, seems like instants and abilities that make things phase out should be added to torpor orb decks.

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 2:44pm

Turbine

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Otherworldly Journey!

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 9:28pm

Boyachi

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Joined: 02-Nov-11

Otherworldly journey would still trigger Dreadnought's come into play sac, which is what we are trying to avoid.

Date Posted: Tue Dec/20/11 at 9:32pm

Boyachi

Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

On a side note, champion creatures do rather well with RR since it gets back the exiled creature instantly, especially if said exiled creature has a a cool come into play ability.

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