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Unlikely 1st turn win

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Groundswell

{G}

Instant

Worldwake

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Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. Landfall — If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, that creature gets +4/+4 until end of turn instead.

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Tainted Strike

{B}

Instant

Scars of Mirrodin

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Target creature gets +1/+0 and gains infect until end of turn. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)

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Chancellor of the Forge

{4}{R}{R}{R}

Creature — Phyrexian Giant

New Phyrexia

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You may reveal this card from your opening hand. If you do, at the beginning of the first upkeep, create a 1/1 red Phyrexian Goblin creature token with haste. When this creature enters, create X 1/1 red Phyrexian Goblin creature tokens with haste, where X is the number of creatures you control.

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Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 12:56 am

Dakkon Thued
Posts: 312
Joined: 15-Mar-10

however very unlikely, if you got these, it's a first turn win in old standard.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 2:00am

Gregorius
Posts: 412
Joined: 01-Aug-10

Saying a first-turn win is unlikely is like saying pizza is delicious... although, pizza could be made better if you used two deep-dish pizzas as cookie crusts and filled the gap between them with perfectly-cooked ground beef and hamburger toppings... like some sort of meat-'n'-cheese Double Stuf Oreos...

...what were we talking about again?
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 4:54am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Is there such a thing as a "likely" 1st turn win?
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 5:28am

Dakkon Thued
Posts: 312
Joined: 15-Mar-10

U know what I mean.  It's a god hand situation.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 5:39am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

All 1st turn wins are god hands!
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 6:05am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

@Greg

Mmm....*Drool*

*Goes off to experiment*

*Promptly has a heart attack from looking at the food.*
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 6:31am

Dakkon Thued
Posts: 312
Joined: 15-Mar-10

I consider a god hand to be 7 cards. not all first turn wins are 7 cards.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 11:19am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Swamp, Black Lotus, Dark Ritual, Grindstone, Painter's Servant. . . would be the easiest hand I can think of.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 1:31pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Swamp, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Helm of Obedience, Leyline of the Void.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 4:48pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Black Lotus, Mox sapphire, mox sapphire, Lightning Greaves, tinker mox, blightsteel colossus, equip, swing!

EDIT: All three of ours are 5 cards!

[Edited by PinkiePie on 7/Nov/11 at 4:49PM]
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 5:18pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Swamp. Dark Ritual. Black Lotus. Hatred. Raging Goblin.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:18pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

not all first turn wins are unlikely ;)

all the leylines in a deck + opalecense +  serra's sanctum + serum powder's in your deck to mulligan several times so that you get more leylines out, since theyre ALL technically "opening hands" ,

so that you start the game with a bunch of enchantments,
so you play serra's sanctum, tap for a buncha white mana to play opalesence,
then you can attack with a buncha creatures for lethal since they BECAME creatures therefore dont have summoning sickness. ;)

this combo is COMPLETELY likely, and can happen almost any time :) ,
the only thing that could really stop it is a force of will,
and even then, you can just cast another opalecense since you would have taken out a big chunk of your deck from mulliganing + playing leylines - therefore the likeliness of drawing another opalesence is HIGH :)
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:28pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

I need some numbers!
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:36pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

@morbid would that work? you muligan before the game starts, so you couldn't play the leylines right?
Date Posted: Mon Nov/07/11 at 7:52pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Doesnt work! Once you play Leyline of the Void from your opening hand, you've accepted your hand and you cant mull anymore!

EDIT: Ruling:

103.5. Once all players have kept their opening hands, if any cards in the starting player's hand allow that player to begin the game with those cards on the battlefield, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.

[Edited by PinkiePie on 7/Nov/11 at 7:55PM]
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 11:31am

Bladelord00
Posts: 112
Joined: 13-Nov-08

Morbids combo does work
By way of ruling PInkiepie posted after you take as many muliigans you want, the leylines are put into play,
Stated in ruling by ONCE ALL PLAYERS HAVE KEPT THEIR OPENING HANDS
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 2:09pm

Akinas86
Posts: 327
Joined: 16-Jun-10

but keeping your opening hand, does that not mean that one cannot mulligan further? also, if you keep mulliganing and playing leylines, wouldnt you eventually draw 0 cards even by the mulligan?

From Gatherer:

8/15/2010 Your "opening hand" is the hand of cards you decide to start the game with after taking any mulligans.
8/15/2010 After all players have decided not to take any more mulligans, if the starting player has any Leylines in his or her hand, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.

[Edited by Akinas86 on 8/Nov/11 at 2:12PM]
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 2:40pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

@Blade

Youre saying that the combo works, but emphasizing the exact part of the ruling that says that the combo doesnt work! Your opening hand is the one you have after youre finished mulling! Serum powder says "Anytime you could mulligan"! When you put the leylines into play you cant mulligan!
Date Posted: Tue Nov/08/11 at 10:57pm

Gregorius
Posts: 412
Joined: 01-Aug-10

Okay, let me settle this once and for all with a quote straight from the WotC's Magic: The Gathering Rules PDF:

At the beginning of a Magic game, you draw the top seven cards of your library. That’s your starting hand. If you don’t like your starting hand of cards for any reason, you can mulligan. When you mulligan, your hand is shuffled into your library and you draw a new hand of one fewer cards. You can mulligan as many times as you want, but you draw one fewer card each time. When both players like their opening hands, you start playing.

So Pinkie is correct—whether it's a Leyline card or a basic land, the minute it goes out onto the battlefield, you have accepted your opening hand and you cannot mulligan further.
Date Posted: Wed Nov/09/11 at 7:16pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

yeah, leylines would deffinatly be used alot more if this worked! but it doesn't.
Date Posted: Wed Nov/09/11 at 7:43pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

What he said! Do you really think people would play turn 3 wins like ichorid, eggs, and storm if this worked?
Date Posted: Wed Nov/09/11 at 9:01pm

xvmileycyrus
Posts: 108
Joined: 29-Sep-11

it would of all been easier if you just read the card. Its opening, not starting. difference is starting hand is the first set of cards you get and the time to decide to mulligan, once decided it becomes opening hand.