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Combo Name: another karn infinite mana and sac combo. Submitted By: xvmileycyrus
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Karn, Silver Golem
 Legendary Artifact Creature 5 4/4 Urza's Saga, Rare

Salvaging Station
 Artifact 6 Fifth Dawn, Rare

Sol Ring
 Mono Artifact 1 Beta, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $13.37
Date Posted: Wed Oct/19/11 at 11:09 pm

xvmileycyrus
Posts: 108
Joined: 29-Sep-11

i think this works because i believe the sol ring hits the graveyard as a creature if you made it one and then becomes a regular artifact.

basically have karn and station out. Play sol ring and tap it to provide one mana to do karns ability and one left over mana. Then have any sac engine like grimgrin (for a recent one) and then sac the ring, return the ring with the station and tap the ring again to make it a creature and have one left over mana. Since the ring hits the graveyard (i think) you untap the station. Repeat. Spend the mana however you choose, and use any sac engine you want.
Date Posted: Wed Oct/19/11 at 11:24pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Nice. Looks good to me... but then, my avatar's C. Thomas Howell...
Date Posted: Wed Oct/19/11 at 11:29pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I don't know who that is either. . .

I would think that you can't resurrect it until it is actually in the graveyard, by which time it isn't a creature. I'm not sure though.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 12:10am

Gregorius
Posts: 411
Joined: 01-Aug-10

You might need to do one of two things to make this work:
• Scrap Karn, and swap in March of the Machines which makes Sol Ring a creature upon entry; or
• add a Dross Scorpion to the combo so that the Salvaging Station untaps after the Sol Ring gets sac'd.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 12:43am

Skippylikeno
Posts: 56
Joined: 14-Jun-11

This combo works. It's a creature when it hits the graveyard and it's not once it's in the graveyard.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 11:00am

Darth_Mahruk
Posts: 109
Joined: 07-Sep-11

Has no one seen the 80's movie, Red Dawn?! C. Thomas Howell was the 'traitor' in the group, as well as the mayor's son.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 11:34am

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

I'm jumping on the "No" side. IMO, it's a creature as long as its in the "battlefield zone" the second it leaves the zone it becomes a regular artifact again before it hits the graveyard. If you used that instant the removes a creature from play and puts its back into play it would come back as an artifact, not a creature. As i understand it; When ever something leaves a zone, it reverts to a new copy of the card when it enters the next zone and loses all modifications, changes,targeting affects, or counters to/on that card unless otherwise stated somewhere. Dross scorpion would make it work for sure.

[Edited by rav514 on 20/Oct/11 at 11:35AM]
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 12:56pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

C. Thomas Howell did not play the traitor. The traitor was a character named Darren Dalton played by an actor named Daryl Bates.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 1:01pm

Darth_Mahruk
Posts: 109
Joined: 07-Sep-11

I apologize for my mis-reference. You are indeed correct. It has been a while since I saw the movie (though I can still quote most of it), and I am so very horrible with names and faces.

"All that hate's going to burn you up, kid." - LCdr Tanner
"Keeps me warm." - Robert Morris
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 1:02pm

Darth_Mahruk
Posts: 109
Joined: 07-Sep-11

I need to learn to edit posts.

We were both wrong - Darren Dalton was the Actor, who played Daryl Bates, the Mayor's son, not the other way around.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 1:06pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

its a yes it does work, its a artifact creature going into the grave which triggers the station to untap, and since creatures dont exist in the grave it can't be one in the grave so its a non creature artifact card while in the yard allowing it to be a target of the station while in the grave.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 1:25pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I misread the cards. I thought that you were bringing it back as a creature, not as a non-creature.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 2:09pm

xvmileycyrus
Posts: 108
Joined: 29-Sep-11

i was going to do march but there is too many march combos and the fact that karn is an artifact allowing this to be done in any color deck.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/20/11 at 2:11pm

xvmileycyrus
Posts: 108
Joined: 29-Sep-11

Plus not to offend but, Red Dawn is a terrible movie. It saddens me that they are even remaking it.



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