Title: Help me make mill deck...

Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 9:10pm

CaptinFluffy

Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

So I'm trying to make a mill deck to strike fear into the hearts of my friends... or just the hated manastacking after every match. I know mill cards can be really expensive and money isn't an object. Any help for good cards, or combos (although I don't have the money for Jace Mindsculptor.... it's 50 bucks at the local shop and I don't have that kinda cash for one card)

Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 9:28pm

gericault5

Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

i use the myr retriver/asnods alter combo followed by bitter ordeal, for the base of my mill (which is fun when they realize they just got milled by a monoblack deck,) you can always go the painters servant/grindstone route, and I have actually seen an impressive UG mill deck,

There are a number of was to build a mill, so the question is how do you want to start it, what colors, any specific cards/combos you really like and want in it, what format, how fast do you want the mill over time(stasis) or quickly (traumatize) etc... from there its easier to get advice

Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 10:31pm

Icuonuez

Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

I have a foolproof mill combo that will make your opponents quit. this is exactly how I built the deck

Red and Blue

Howling Mine x4

Font of Mythos x4

Goblin Assault x4

Obstinate Familiar x4

Eldrazi Monument x4

Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind x3

Crawlspace x2

Planar Portal x4

Counterspell x4

Cancel x4

You could also replace the Planar Portals and/or Niv-Mizzet's with some Sleep's and Time Warps to make sure your opponent doesnt attack too much, and give you/him that extra turn for the win. The point of the deck is to pop out as many howling mines and font of mythos as you can and make sure that Obstinate Familiar remains in play at all times. You could also add some discard cards or some damage prevention spells to be on the safe side. The most expensive cards are the Eldrazi Monuments, which makes all of your creatures indestructible, and Goblin Assault is the sacrifice. Just make sure you only put one into play, otherwise you'll probably kill your opponent before you mill him.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 3:52am

psyche

Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Drowner of secrets, Stonybrook schoolmaster, intruder alarm.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 7:40am

JimTilson

Posts: 160
Joined: 07-Jul-09

Hagra Diabolist + Rite of Replication!

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 10:09am

Skybreak22

Posts: 327
Joined: 01-Feb-10

Here's my Green/Black mill.....I like it cause it's different from the standard Blue/Black.

Splinter x 3 + Myr Landshaper x 3

Eradicate x 4 + Lifespark Spellbomb x 4

Aluren x 4 + Grinding Station x 4 + Myr Retriever x 4

Birds of Paradise x 4
Eternal Witness x 3
Mind Funeral x 3 ( splash of blue for this )
Bequeathal x 4

In lands : Ghost Quarter x 3

The premise is to change your opponents lands into artifacts or creatures, then milling the rest from their library. Once their lands are milled, your task is much easier. Use Mind Funeral to mill the rest from there. If that combo doesn't go off, the Aluren combo may be available to you, which is pretty much a one-turn mill. The Ghost Quarters help you continue the land removal. Throw your Bequeathal's on their creature-land before you eradicate it. Cheers.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 10:17am

ARCANIS

Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Or just use Prodigal Sorcerer enchanted with curiosity. Have Mind over Matter in play, with Crumbling Sanctuary and Quest for Ancient Secrets. You'll remove his deck all on your turn and he'll just be watching you remove his cards one by one from the game lol...

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 3:42pm

CaptinFluffy

Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

I'm planning on the usual spells, Glimpse the unthinkable, Traumatize, Memory Sluice, etc. But I'd like to find some usefull creatures other than Oona and Circu Dimir Lobotomist, etc. The plan is to mill as fast as possible but still be playable in a multiplayer match.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 4:53pm

Skybreak22

Posts: 327
Joined: 01-Feb-10

Well, you're pretty brave trying to mill multiple opponents, I'll say that. Best critter I can think of would be Raven Guild Master with a Fireshrieker attached. Scalpelexis and Nemesis of Reason would also be decent. Also, consider Sanity Grinding, Haunting Echoes, and Archive Trap for some alternative spells. Blue/Black has many, many options.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 6:40pm

ARCANIS

Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

And obviously you never forget to put Tormod's Crypt in the deck. Cost nothing and remove the milled cards from graveyard frequently from the game. Also consider having Feldon's Cane as backup too...

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 6:41pm

ARCANIS

Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Grip of Amnesia wouldn't be bad either

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 6:44pm

gericault5

Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Most mills are hard to kill multiple players, it runs alot like burn and burns out quickly. Glimpse is good for 10 cards from 1 person, even twincasted its 20 cards, but what are you going to do about the other 80 cards the other 2 players have. Creature wise you have nemsis of reason, raven guild master, lich lord, szadek, lord of secrets. i would also suggest clone to make multiple copies of the above, and some whispersilk cloaks since 2 of the better onces require combat damage.

I think your best bet is to use the myr/ashnods combo to build your storm/gravestorm count and follow it by a brain freeze/bitter ordeal, this will allow you to mill multiple opponents at once (which alone will make your deck memorable to your friends). tutors can be used to find the combo while black/blue offer alot of choices to control the field while you find your combo.

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 6:45pm

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

It's rare to see anyone suggest raven guildmaster for milling.. Well, i used Raven Guildmaster during my first few months of play for milling but never really used it now because he got easily killed...

Date Posted: Wed Mar/03/10 at 11:07pm

JMDin83

Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Mind Funeral

Extract

Rootwater Thief

Denying Wind

Archive Trap

Hedron Crab

Vision Charm

Ambassador Laquattus

I actually have a list of about 30 cheap (mana and moneywise) mill cards if youre interested, just tell me and ill try to send you it sometime lol

Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 4:44pm

CaptinFluffy

Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Tormod's Crypt kills my Beacon of Unrest. And there's a creature that is basically clone, but it steals from the graveyard not from a creature in play. And I see what you mean about it burning out quickly but I'm trying to find a balance between creatures and spells so that I can have some form of defense...

Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 5:03pm

JMDin83

Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

i use 3 of the new allies in my mill deck

Halimar Excavator

Jwari Shapeshifter

Agadeem Occultist

Mill your deck, then take your critters for myself :) kinda winnish :)

Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 7:00pm

Rokhan

Posts: 46
Joined: 20-Dec-09

JMDin83 i like the cut of your jib.

One of my mill decks is as follows

4x Jwari shapeshifter

4x Bojuka Brigand

4x Halimar Excavator

4x Umara Raptor

1x Hedron crab (why one?..... IDK)

3x Seagate loremaster

3x Bala ged thief

1 Jace sculptor

1 Jace Beleren

1 Liliana Ves

2 Agadeen Occultist

2 Archive Trap

1 Circu Dimir Lobotomist

1 Skul clamp

1 Whisper silk cloak

2 Traumatize

2 Wrexial the risin deep

1 Szadek Lord of Secrets

1 Gifts ungiven

1 Memory erosion

It works well enough

Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 7:08pm

Rokhan

Posts: 46
Joined: 20-Dec-09

Captin Fluffy thank you for reminding me of dimir doppelganger ive been thinking about puting that in my deck.

Date Posted: Sat Mar/06/10 at 10:09am

CaptinFluffy

Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

The problem I'm finding is that many of the spells are somewhat high manacost. And so here's what I'm thinking for my deck

4 Memory Erosions
1 Mortivore
1 Circu Lobotomist
4 Sanity Grinding
2 Millstones
1 Grimoire Thief
4 Hedron Crabs
4 Tomb Scour
Jace (normal
Liliana
3 Traumatize
3 Brain Freeze
4 Mind Funeral
2 Memory Sluice
Oona
Szadek
Body Double
Clone
Nemesis of Reason
Scalpelexis
Beacon Of Unrest
2 Glimpse the ...
BloodChief Ascension
Ambassador Laquatus

Date Posted: Sun Mar/07/10 at 11:49am

JMDin83

Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

well with my standard mill deck i have only 2 cards over 3 cost.....Archive Trap and Kathari Remnant (yay for B/U Cascade on a 4cast flying regenerating blocker lol) It only sucks when you cascade into twincast...had that happen to me 4 times in a tourney last night...i was pissed, needless to say lol

4 Jawari Shapeshifter
4 Halimar Excavator
4 Agadeem Occultist
4 Hedron Crab
4 Mind Funeral
4 Twincast
4 Archive Trap
3 Tome Scour
3 Jace Beleren
3 Sadistic Sacrament (helps for killing combo decks, or for pulling lands for when you mind funeral)
3 Cancel
4 Terramorphic Expanse
8 Island
8 Swamp

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