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infinite mana and damage for edh reb, blue white

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Celestial Dawn

{1}{W}{W}

Enchantment

Classic Sixth Edition

Read rules for Celestial Dawn
Lands you control are Plains. Nonland permanents you control are white. The same is true for spells you control and nonland cards you own that aren't on the battlefield. You may spend white mana as though it were mana of any color. You may spend other mana only as though it were colorless mana.

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Splinter Twin

{2}{R}{R}

Enchantment — Aura

Rise of the Eldrazi

Read rules for Splinter Twin
Enchant creature Enchanted creature has "{T}: Create a token that's a copy of this creature, except it has haste. Exile that token at the beginning of the next end step."

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Date Posted: Sun Oct/02/11 at 12:50 pm

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

cast priest, tehn celestial dawn, then the 2 auras, then pandemonium, infinite damage and mana
Date Posted: Sun Oct/02/11 at 1:21pm

Dakkon Thued
Posts: 312
Joined: 15-Mar-10

I don't think this works.  the priest makes red mana, and with the dawn, red mana is colourless, so you can't use it as blue.  mycosynth?
Date Posted: Sun Oct/02/11 at 4:08pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Dakkon

Agreed.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 2:08am

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

actually, read celestial dawn, it makes everything white, including all casting costs and abilities etc....

<a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=3481

says it does make it white mana (as all mana symbols on all cards are affected too according to wizards of the coast)
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 2:08am

Draco_lich
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Joined: 07-May-10

http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=3481
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 2:09am

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?printed=true&multiverseid=3481
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 2:10am

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

sorry for the multiple posting, was a dead link at first, and it doesnt let me edit my combos or posts
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 10:20am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

@draco

your the one that needs to reread celestial dawn, everyone else gets it.  It doesn't change the costs it lets you use white mana to pay the costs, and even if it did switch the costs to white, you have red which becomes colorless not white.

You can make it work by switching freed from real with aura of dominion
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 2:30pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Draco

I think you were assuming Celestial Dawn was Mycosynth Lattice. I would think so too, if I hadn't read the card more carefully.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 4:42pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

*confusing
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 6:18pm

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

i have celestial dawn... the card (it is from mirage), it actually says "All nonland cards you own that are not in play are white. All nonland permanents you control are white. All lands you control are plains. all colored mana symbols in all costs and on all these cards and permanents are (white mana symbol)."
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:15pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

"All nonland cards you own that are not in play are white. All nonland
permanents you control are white. All lands you control are plains. all
colored mana symbols in all costs and on all these cards and permanents
are (white mana symbol)."

Yeah, I have the 6th edition printing and that really messed me up for a while, so they errated it to be much clearer.
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 2:26am

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

"All nonland cards you own that are not in play are white. All nonland
permanents you control are white. All lands you control are plains. all
colored mana symbols in all costs and on all these cards and permanents
are (white mana symbol)."

after it says all costs, it also says "and on all these cards and permanents are (white mana symbol)." that part is what i am referring to
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 6:09pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Ok couple of things here

1st - Oracle text has the final say of what a card says and the oracle text says white can be used as any color to pay the costs.  It does not change the color of the mana symbol.  Oracle text can be found by going to the 2nd link Draco provided and pressing the word Oracle

2nd - the rulings listed on the page provided by Draco states that "Mana produced by spells and non land permanents are not affected by Celestial Dawn"  then gives en example how llanowar elves still will produce G.  there fore the priest still produces RRR

3rd - If playing by card text rather the oracle text, according to the link provided, the card text actually reads: All colored mana symbols in all costs on all these cards and permanents are (white mana symbol)."  You both added an extra '"and" which changed how the text reads.  As it actually reads only the costs are changed and the priests mana is an effect not a cost.

sorry this does not work as it currently stands, switch to aura of dominion to make it work
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 7:39pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Also, you should be able to edit your posts if you enter your login capitalized.

Ex:
Turbine allows me to edit posts.
turbine doesn't let me edit posts.




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