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Thunderblust

{2}{R}{R}{R}

Creature — Elemental

Eventide

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Haste This creature has trample as long as it has a -1/-1 counter on it. Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)

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Date Posted: Mon Sep/05/11 at 7:53 pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

With all out, sac thunderblust to greater good. You'll draw 7, then randomly discard 3, which can be put on top of your library due to library of leng. Thunderblust comes back with a -1/-1 counter. Pay one, discard another random card to the top of your library to put a +1/+1 counter on Thunderblust, which cancels out the -1/-1 counter.

All in all this equates to pay one:draw three cards (plus dies/ETB effects)
Date Posted: Mon Sep/05/11 at 7:58pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09



You
can't use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top
of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren't
effects.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/05/11 at 8:02pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Shoot, I need to start reading cards and not just remembering general things they do. Well then, scrap the library and use wheel of sun and moon.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/05/11 at 10:21pm

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

it is a effect


ef·fect/iˈfekt/
Noun: A change that is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.
Verb: Cause (something) to happen; bring about. More »
Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

Library of Leng

and the combo works
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 10:38am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

@draco

the discards from greater good is an effect so they go to the top

the discard from amok is a cost, so leng doesn't affect it

so while the combo works it doesnt work completely as intended
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 3:13pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Gericault

Yeah, I probably should have explained that better. . .




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