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The Shapeshifter 2

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Volrath's Shapeshifter

{1}{U}{U}

Creature — Phyrexian Shapeshifter

Stronghold

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As long as the top card of your graveyard is a creature card, this creature has the full text of that card and has the text "{2}: Discard a card." (This creature has that card's name, mana cost, color, types, abilities, power, and toughness.) {2}: Discard a card.

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Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 2:52 am

Karn
Posts: 31
Joined: 01-Nov-10

(This combo happened before Phyrexian Dreadnought's text had been changed for use with Stifle.)

Volrath's Shapeshifter can become 22/2 with trample and haste.
Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 7:03am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How? I can see it becoming a 12/12 trample or a 2/2 haste, but not both.
Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 7:28am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

i can see it... its called abusing the stack... it really is fun doing that too!
Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 8:07am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

But we are correct in saying because it's already in play that you don't have to sacrifice anything to it to keep it, correct?  That sounds like a cool combo.

Then the other question is, first it becomes a Flowstone Hellion and you pay the cost twice to give it +2/-2, so it's a 5/1.  Now it becomes a Phryxian Dreadnaught.  Wouldn't it still have the benefit of +2/-2 on it?  So it would be a 14/10?

Here's another example.  You have the shapeshifter and it's a 2/2 Bear.  You block something that's a 2/2 and to keep your shapeshifter you Giant Growth it, so it's now a 5/5.  Your opponent, thinking he'll be cute lets it resolve (thinking it doesn't keep its stats when it changes) and then casts Giant Growth on his 2/2 which is now a 5/5 as well, so you respond by discarding a Shivan Dragon, making your Shapeshifter a 8/8, correct? 

To site another more visible option, if it has a Pacifism on it and it shapeshifts, it still can't block or attack. 

If you remove Haste though when it changes, it will reincur its summoning sickness.


[Edited by darthnefas on 12/Aug/11 at 8:09AM]
Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 11:47am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

you put the flowstone triggers on the stack (after it has been declared as an attacker) then put the discard trigger on the stack... suddenly you have a massive tramply creature
Date Posted: Fri Aug/12/11 at 12:58pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Your first step mageta is to attack, then start the stack thing




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