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I\'ll Take that

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Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 8:12 am

Phildo
Posts: 11
Joined: 23-Jan-11

Each turn you can steal one of their creatures, artifacts or lands.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 9:38am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Clever :)
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 10:01am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I don't get it.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 10:54am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

You take one(until end of turn) with Dominius, then you take that one and trade it with the Trader for a different one making the new one controlled without the end of turn condition...
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 11:58am

Phildo
Posts: 11
Joined: 23-Jan-11

You can take anything with Dominus and then use bazaar trader on it and bam no until end of turn condition, so every turn you get a new permanent from your opponent
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 1:23pm

Draco_lich
Posts: 1073
Joined: 07-May-10

doesnt work, the trader nullifies the "gain control until end of turn" you gain control of the permanent, but the trader gives it back, at the end of the turn the opponent keeps their permanent, all it does is allows you to have control of the permanent until you give it to the opponent, but it does untap it for you to use until you give it to the opponent.

please correct me if i am wrong, and... if you do, please show me where in the oracle or rulings i am wrong
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 1:28pm

Skippylikeno
Posts: 56
Joined: 14-Jun-11

No you're right, just because you used bazaar trader doesn't mean the dominus' until end of turn condition doesn't still happen, because it's not like you actually interupted the dominus abilty or changed it at all
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 1:50pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Okay, so I wasn't losing my reading skills.

Yes, you gain control of the creature, but the all the Trader does is give it back faster.  Then the other ability resolves and since its already in the owner's hands nothing changes.

It would work for things like Juxtapose.  Take their creature and give their creature back to them to swap for something they have.

Personally I like sacrificing their creature to Ashnod's Alter or Alter of Dementia. 
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 4:20pm

GingerKid
Posts: 143
Joined: 23-Apr-11

Or you could just Mind Control the creature...
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 4:42pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Ths does work. Let me expllain why
Trader specifys target player not opponent so dominus or any other steal spell takes control of something. You then use the trader to give yourself control of the something. End of turn occurs and the something goes back to the controller but thanks to trader that controller is you
Date Posted: Wed Jun/22/11 at 4:54pm

Phildo
Posts: 11
Joined: 23-Jan-11

Straight from the card rulings 
You may target yourself with Bazaar Trader's ability. Normally, this
won't have any visible effect. However, the ability would override an
effect with a limited duration that gave you control of a permanent. For
example, if you temporarily gained control of a creature with Act of
Treason, targeting yourself and that creature with Bazaar Trader's
ability would then cause you to gain control of the creature
indefinitely.




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