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Transcendence

Enchantment

Torment

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You don't lose the game for having 0 or less life. When you have 20 or more life, you lose the game. Whenever you lose life, you gain 2 life for each 1 life you lost. (Damage dealt to you causes you to lose life.)

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Sanguine Bond

Enchantment

Magic 2010

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Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.

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Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 3:27 pm

darthnefas

Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I love this. If they deal damage to you they lose twice as much life as you do!

Can anyone answer this? Is Culmulative Upkeep something that this Transedance stops? I hate the wording life loss. It should be damage or something.

[Edited by darthnefas on 7/Jun/11 at 3:49PM]

Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 5:33pm

lin sivvi

Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

what type of culumtive upkeep are you talking about?

Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 6:03pm

darthnefas

Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

So lets say something had a Culmulative Upkeep of 1 Life. The rules say "lose life" etc. etc. but the way I read it that losing life to Culmulitive Upkeep couldn't be redirected while this card says, when you "lose life". So I was wondering how that worked.

For instance, you have Reverance in play and the drop a Glacial Chasm. How does that work?

Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 6:43pm

lin sivvi

Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

I believe paying life causes life loss (oh god this came up before, how did it end) so yes. . . I think

Gericult. . ?

Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 7:38pm

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Every time your life changes, it's considered a gain/lose life... so paying life is losing life... and also don't forget the lose the game at 20 or more...

Date Posted: Tue Jun/07/11 at 10:04pm

gericault5

Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

correct shaki but remember the loss at 20 life is a trigger ability so if you gain life which puts you over 20 both the lose game and the bond trigger at the same time you can put the transcendece on the stack first so that the bond resolves first SBE's are checked afterwards sees your opponent at 0 and the game ends then before the transcendence kills you.

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