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Experiment Kraj

Legendary Creature — Ooze Mutant

Dissension

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Experiment Kraj has all activated abilities of each other creature with a +1/+1 counter on it.

: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.

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This artifact enters tapped. This artifact doesn't untap during your untap step. If you would begin your turn while this artifact is tapped, you may skip that turn instead. If you do, untap this artifact.

: Take an extra turn after this one.

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Date Posted: Tue Jan/19/10 at 8:40 pm

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Put a +1/+1 counter on Time Vault... Next turn, tap experiment kraj to take an extra turn... Or if you have a spell or effect to untap experiment Kraj, untap him now then tap to take an extra turn...

Date Posted: Wed Mar/31/10 at 9:39am

erviin

Posts: 13
Joined: 29-Mar-10

I believe that when Experiment Kraj copies Time Vault abilities, Experiment Kraj becomes unable to be untapped. So unless you have a way to untap it... I don't see it working. Perhaps I'm wrong thou.

Date Posted: Sat Apr/03/10 at 6:10am

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I believe that is incorrect... Experiment Kraj only copies activated abilities and we both know that the "doesn't untap during untap phase" of Time Vault is not an activated ability...

Date Posted: Sun Jun/19/11 at 6:35pm

T}{3 0l\l3 VV}{0 1S

Posts: 178
Joined: 10-Jun-11

then run a leech bonder and give it a +1/+1 as well, so that kraj can untap and move counters. you also need a march of the machines so make the artifact a creature, so that it works with kraj.

Date Posted: Mon Jun/20/11 at 5:40pm

darthnefas

Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Wasn't there some sort of errata that read you couldn't just untap the vault and have it work that you HAD to lose a turn to make it work?

Date Posted: Mon Jun/20/11 at 10:56pm

gericault5

Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

there might have been at one point, but as of now the only activated ability time vault has is that you tap it to take another turn. Since thats the only activated ability that is the only one krag gets. so krag will untap as normal during its untap step, which time you can tap again to take another turn

Date Posted: Mon Jun/20/11 at 11:19pm

shakii23

Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I was exploiting the tap ability of time vault and the fact that experiment Kraj untaps during untap step not like Time Vault... You can also use Myr Welder on this combo instead of Experiment Kraj...