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Nacatl War-Pride

{3}{G}{G}{G}

Creature — Cat Warrior

Future Sight

Read rules for Nacatl War-Pride
This creature must be blocked by exactly one creature if able. Whenever this creature attacks, create X tokens that are copies of it and that are tapped and attacking, where X is the number of creatures defending player controls. Exile the tokens at the beginning of the next end step.

3/3

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Overrun

{2}{G}{G}{G}

Sorcery

Tempest

Read rules for Overrun
Creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn. (Each of those creatures can deal excess combat damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.)

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Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 1:48 pm

MagicMushrooms
Posts: 18
Joined: 09-Mar-11

hi I'm new!

Anyway, here's the formula:

36x + y = td

td - total damae

x - number of creatures defending player controls * 6

y - number of creatures you control (including the tokens you pull out as you attack)

I've pulled this off one time with a G/W/U deck, all except for SoNG and Sleep, not that it mattered because everything had trample. :D it came out to over 230 damage, I also had a 40/40 scute mob as an attacker.
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 3:11pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

The power wouldn't go up on the tokens even with the sigil equiped to the war pride. 706.2 form the complete rules says
When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The "copiable values" are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.
The Nacatl War-Pride tokens take from the orignal printed card, not the creature as it has been modified. Even so that gives you 3 + 3x for each creature they have. If they have 3 creatures it would be 12 damage. You could use Coat of Arms. Not exactly what you expected but not bad. Also if you are using white look to Raksha Golden Cub for a massive power boost.
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 3:43pm

MagicMushrooms
Posts: 18
Joined: 09-Mar-11

The tokens would all be 3/3, then overrun would make them 6/6, sigil of the nayan gods would go on the original nacatl war pride, which would boos it up by x, x being how many tokens there are y the time the attack ends. I'm well awae that the copies aren't affected by the creature AFTER nacatl war pride is boosted. and oo I like that cat boosting card
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 4:11pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Tears of Rage could also be good for the alpha strike of the war pride.
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 4:18pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Magic welcome to the site. I'm sure you read some of the other posts. One of the things you'll see is we offer suggestions on how to improve them as well as comments on the legalitys of the combo as psyche just did. With that being said...
Overrun only affecvts the creatures that are in play when it resolves and since it is a sorcery it resolves before the tokens come into play so they do not get the boost or trample. Coat of arms and primal rage can replace that and will actually give you more then the overrun
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 6:02pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

Well then, vedalken orrery could be very good in this to give your kitty tokens trample at instant speed.
Date Posted: Wed Mar/09/11 at 6:03pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

well there's Kamahl...




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