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2 card exile target Deck from the game

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Helm of Obedience

{4}

Artifact

Alliances

Read rules for Helm of Obedience
{X}, {T}: Target opponent mills a card, then repeats this process until a creature card or X cards have been put into their graveyard this way, whichever comes first. If one or more creature cards were put into that graveyard this way, sacrifice this artifact and put one of them onto the battlefield under your control. X can't be 0.

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Date Posted: Sun Feb/27/11 at 11:08 am

ibnl
Posts: 12
Joined: 07-Dec-10

This combo killed me today....Because all the card goes to the graveyard will be exile "instead"

so it wont stop !!( JESUS christ)

Turn 0 leyline of the void (start in hand)

5 mana pay Helm of Obedience into play and 1mana for active it...AND gg to me
Date Posted: Sun Feb/27/11 at 1:21pm

Xmarksthepedwalk
Posts: 43
Joined: 15-Jan-11

Wow this actually works? yeah i suppose it does reading the helm. nice combo.:) this is totally going in my deck, thanks.:-)
Date Posted: Sun Feb/27/11 at 4:23pm

Akinas86
Posts: 327
Joined: 16-Jun-10

and it checks out on gatherer:

"If an effect like that of Leyline of the Void prevents cards from being put into your opponent's graveyard, the process described in the first sentence of Helm of Obedience's effect will never stop. Your opponent's entire library will be exiled, even if X is 1."
- Gatherer
Date Posted: Sun Feb/27/11 at 6:35pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Respect. Off to abuse this to a turn 1 win.

[Edited by Twogunkid on 27/Feb/11 at 6:36PM]
Date Posted: Sun Feb/27/11 at 6:41pm

Akinas86
Posts: 327
Joined: 16-Jun-10

agreed. add a swamp and two dark ritual and thats turn 1 win!
Date Posted: Mon Feb/28/11 at 12:07pm

newb
Posts: 175
Joined: 02-Feb-10

It looks like this would only work for what you could pay for.
Date Posted: Mon Feb/28/11 at 7:23pm

Seregthol
Posts: 115
Joined: 21-Feb-11

It would look like that, if you didn't understand the combo, which you obviously don't.
Date Posted: Tue Mar/01/11 at 11:25am

newb
Posts: 175
Joined: 02-Feb-10

You know, rather than be a jerk you could help me understand this.
Date Posted: Tue Mar/01/11 at 11:59am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Newb

Basically when you trigger the helm you choose a value for X (in this case 1),  you  then need to put cards from your opponents library into their graveyard until you put X (1) cards in the grave or a creature card.

However, the leyline creates a replacement effect, where the cards are exiled instead of going to the grave.  As a result, the helm never stops removing cards, because the way to stop it (1 card put into the grave) is never reached
Date Posted: Tue Mar/01/11 at 12:18pm

newb
Posts: 175
Joined: 02-Feb-10

Thanks for the help. I get it now.
Date Posted: Wed Mar/02/11 at 2:03pm

ibnl
Posts: 12
Joined: 07-Dec-10

yes...it defentaty works

I ask one of the LV2 judge to explan it (cox its a 1v1 EDH torment i was playing)

When my oppent do it ..his on infect 9 !!!!and Top deck that helmet :( (cox I discard all his hand)

can`t forget that game...its once in a life maybe :( (his deck still has 80 cards ,and with 5 mana even he get a toutor still not enough to cast and active !!(he only got 5 mana)

 Leyline of the Void is evil !!!very evil !!! deck breaking (entomb iona ) ,grave controling...and

now i find out that ,its a 2 card killer combo pieace....

 


[Edited by ibnl on 2/Mar/11 at 2:05PM]
Date Posted: Wed Mar/02/11 at 10:28pm

Seregthol
Posts: 115
Joined: 21-Feb-11

It's involved in many more than just the one two-card killer.

On a side note, it must be so hard to become a level-2 judge.  I tried to take the level-1 judge test on the DCI website, but I completely failed it.  At least I was able to pass the rlues advisor test, none of my friends were :-).


[Edited by Seregthol on 2/Mar/11 at 10:30PM]