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Combo Name: Slitting Mother's Wrist Submitted By: ghostfire86
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Shaman en-Kor
 Summon Cleric 1W 1/2 Stronghold, Rare

Mother of Runes
 Summon Cleric W 1 / 1 Urza's Legacy, Uncommon

Lashknife Barrier
 Enchantment 2W Planeshift, Uncommon

Pariah
 Enchant Creature 2W Urza's Saga, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $10.77
Date Posted: Fri Jan/08/10 at 5:04 pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

This is actually two combo's in one making a nice strategy play. Each backs up the other in case of removal of a piece of this puzzle.

Pariah on mother of runes=no damage dealt to you

Shaman en-kor with lashknife barrier=no damage spread out to your creatures

If something was to happen to keep mother from tapping...say you attacked for some weird reason use shaman to take the damage and spread the wealth.
Date Posted: Fri Jan/08/10 at 7:32pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

this is sick.  lashknife and the en-kor.  i have them both and never realized how well they interact with each other.

While I like pariah and the mother, why not go with cho-manno, this frees the mother to protect your other creatures rather then herself.  Also if you give her pro white you lose pariah so that is a whole color that can still hurt you

 
Date Posted: Sat Jan/09/10 at 12:10am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

keeping the combo cheap as far as mana cost. Faster to put out to control damage and yes mother would hurt as far as white is concerned however it is optional. As i stated in the other post, if your opponent uses removal on one piece of this you can easily correct his/her action.

Kind of like playing shatter on a Sensie Divining Top...."ok draw a card and it goes to the top of my library". Makes your opponent work harder.
Date Posted: Sat Jan/09/10 at 12:50pm

duk-jr
Posts: 47
Joined: 28-Sep-07

Crap, this is wicked.  I also never paid attention to how simple and effective Shaman en-kor and Lashknife barrier were, so if you had all four of those cards in play, you'd be set.
Date Posted: Sat Jan/09/10 at 10:28pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Ghost, I hear what you're saying and the lower cost makes sense especially looking at the cost of the cards being considered for this deck .  Please understand I'm not saying you should loss mother as a control element.  Just asking why redirect when you can prevent.

Looking at your recent opinion post it looks like you are considering some heavy mana cards for this redirection deck, which means it will be easy to tap out with shamans ability, especially if an opponent spreads out the damage, Instead of redirecting the damage from mother just prevent it and keep mother free to protect the removal that will be thrown, plus you will have a dump place for damage in case you do not have enough creatures for lashknife to be effective
Date Posted: Sat Jan/09/10 at 11:23pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

I have exhausted all the tools that i have at this time and have become satisfied with this set up. My next step is to use a proxy deck to see how well this deck will work, so do not think that this is hard set as of yet. Chances are that this will change as far as numbers are concerned and mabey a card or two. This is what i am considering for this deck curently:

4 beloved chaplain                3 captain's maneuver              3 braid of fire

4 mother of runes                  2 energy bolt                              4 lashknife barrier

4 order of the stars                3 intimidation bolt                     3 luminarch ascension

4 shaman en-kor                   3 lightning helix                         3 quietus spike

The land is 24 with fetch lands (arid mesa and terramorphic expanse) and dual land that yes i will come out of pocket for (plateau).


[Edited by ghostfire86 on 9/Jan/10 at 11:32PM]
Date Posted: Sat Jan/09/10 at 11:24pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

wow that did not look like it when i wrote it up.....huh....
Date Posted: Sun Jan/10/10 at 2:20am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

not bad looking, the spike works well with the chaplin which also provides a dump while the defenders/mother deal with non0-combat crap.  But looking at it I have to wonder with the protection do you really need lashknife, consider this if you have mother and shaman out and 6 damage (spitebellows) coming to you, protection will save both your creatures, lash knife will only save 1.  maybe replace it with flickering ward. but only testing will tell for certain.

I do have to ask what is the point of braids of fire?  unless I am missing something there is nothing in your deck that can really take advantage of it.
Date Posted: Sun Jan/10/10 at 5:28am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Thought i did would work in it however upon clarification from a few friends i now see the errors of my ways. Braids of Fire does work well with X damage burn instants. Something to possibly think of and mana burn does not exist anymore. I am taking it out of the structure format to tell the truth. Also i am thinking of sideboarding celestial mantle. My wife got two of them from buying boosters tonight and when i saw them i realized that by having creatures that can attack and have protection workout very well. Just stroll past the defense like a cool summer's breeze to double my life total and deal damage to you. Same with spike only you lose half of your life. Mwahahahahaha.

I know what you mean about the lashknife barrier, but i am going to wait till i start trials on the deck. I will probally change it out for either swords to plowshare or path to exile for a touch of control.  Don't want anything with a good evasion skill coming out onto the board. Also looking to change the one card from mirage.....energy bolt with some red instant. Just got to figure out which one.

Already got a few of the cards from trading tonight.

Not to mention that i now have three maelstrom pulse (and the crowd goes wild) along side with a pernicous deed. Two of the cards that i need in a green-black board control deck that i have been working on. Lord of Extinction will be very happy about this. I have already played this one with a proxy deck and it kill ravager affinity of all things. Crime//Punishment helps out to lay waste to all of its artifact lands, wielding jar, and ornithopters on second turn. Pernicious deed just follows up from behind to clean up the excess. But that deck is for another time my friends.
Date Posted: Mon Jan/11/10 at 4:15pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Ok just an update made the proxies today and will start the deck trials tonight. will post to let you know how it works out. Also did change the structure up a bit so i will repost the changes later.
Date Posted: Mon Jan/11/10 at 8:17pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Ok so far here is the deck which is working wonderfully as of yet. I can truthfully foresee problems with having to deal with fast mill decks however it seems to be holding up to my and my wife's other decks. Will have to test this against my group this weekend. This the deck structure:

Creatures     20                    Spells    14                 Artifact     2           Enchantment     2

4 order of the stars               4 Intimidation Bolt     2 Quietus Spike       2 Luminarch Ascension

4 mother of runes                 4 lightning Bolt

4 glittering lynx                       4 Lightning Helix

4 beloved chaplain               2 Banefire

4 shaman en-kor

Land   22                                   Side Board     12

4 Terramorphic Expanse        4 Voice of All

8 Mountain                                 4 Holy Day

10 Plains                                    2 Banefire

                                                     2 Celestial Mantle

 

Would love to put in Arid Mesa but at 15 a card i will have to wait. Three seperate kill switches which are optional between quietus spike (attached to beloved chaplain its unblockable/Blocking your protected with deathtouch), Banefire ( late game kill and only use in excess of 5 damage, works well against blue counter and white prevention), and Luminarch Ascension ( hard to take direct damage in this deck/ multiplayer capable card).

For the chance that i meet the problem of flying I will be sideboarding voice of all which for this deck seems expensive to me but it works so very well with the option of picking color protection and flying in one card. I am only considering the celestial mantle at this moment will probally not do it.

Any suggestions as of yet?
Date Posted: Sat May/15/10 at 5:31am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears as though a few big trample creatures would walk over this deck. You may want to include some heavier control in your sideboard?
Date Posted: Sat May/15/10 at 7:49pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

wouldn't lashknife work with any of the kor with the redirection a.k.a nomads en-kor and lancers en-kor?
Date Posted: Fri May/28/10 at 5:09pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Two Gun

the answer is yes



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