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Combo Name: Nothing can Stop This Submitted By: Ephemerance
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Hermetic Study
 Enchant Creature 1U Urza's Saga, Common

Pili-Pala
 Artifact Creature - Scarecrow 2 1/1 Shadowmoor, Common

Training Grounds
 Enchantment U Rise of the Eldrazi, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $1.58
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 6:09 am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Unless you have the necessary cards in play to stop the damage, once this is on the field (and summoning sickness has dissipated) there is nothing that can stop this combo except for split-second cards (and only a select few).
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 9:51am

Decay57
Posts: 14
Joined: 19-Jan-11

Ohh yeah true. Cool


[Edited by Decay57 on 20/Jan/11 at 10:42AM]
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 9:57am

Laughing Treefolk
Posts: 52
Joined: 06-Sep-10

nope, he pays 1 mana, the rest is free because of the creature's ability
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 9:58am

Laughing Treefolk
Posts: 52
Joined: 06-Sep-10

Pili-Pala gives you one mana when untaped
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 10:41am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Unless you have the necessary cards in play to stop the damage, once this is on the field (and summoning sickness has dissipated) there is nothing that can stop this combo except for split-second cards (and only a select few).

Not necessarily, since you are relying on the resolution of the abilitys to keep the combo going if something resolves before an ability it would stop the combo, basically if someone throughs anything out before the mana from pila resolves will kill the combo unless you have additional mana free to keep it going. 

Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 12:56pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How about any counterspell?
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 3:36pm

Akinas86
Posts: 327
Joined: 16-Jun-10

add paradise mantle to make it infinite
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 4:53pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

@Turbine,

He's stating the permanents are already on the battlefield, so too late for counterspell.... unless you boomerang then counter ;)

@Akinas86,

After the initial 1 mana, it is infinite unless stopped.

[Edited by Pal-of-Lim-Dul on 20/Jan/11 at 4:55PM]
Date Posted: Fri Jan/21/11 at 6:00am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Yup, pretty hard to stop. Mana abilities don't use the stack so you can't respond to it untapping - thus, you can keep using it's tap to damage ability as many times as you want (i.e. however many it takes to kill your opponent) before passing priority to allow things to resolve.

However, once you have passed priority, there are still ways of stopping it after everything has been put on the stack.

A Sudden Shock on the Pila Pala will kill it, and you can't respond by pinging things. Once it's dead, you can redirect some of the damage abilities still on the stack, or prevent the damage somehow (e.g. with Auriok Replica).
Date Posted: Fri Jan/21/11 at 4:48pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

@gericault5

Mana abilities don't use the stack; meaning you don't have to wait.


@Zark-the-Damned

"A Sudden Shock on the Pila Pala will kill it, and you
can't respond by pinging things. Once it's dead, you can redirect some
of the damage abilities still on the stack, or prevent the damage
somehow (e.g. with Auriok Replica). "

Yes, as I said in the beginning, split second is essentially the only thing that can stop this. Auriok Replica wouldn't work because the moment you put the ability on the stack, I can respond by putting more damage on top of the stack (and kill you before your ability has a chance to resolve).
Date Posted: Sat Jan/22/11 at 6:12am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

I meant you you use the Auriok Replica's ability after killing Pili-Pala with the Sudden Shock, thus you wouldn't be able to add more damage.

Still, not a bad combo :)

For more robustness in a deck you could add Grand Architect for it's infinite mana combo - go red/blue and add Fireball type spells in case you're unable to get a Heremetic Study (or power of fire, etc.) out.

[Edited by Zark-the-Damned on 22/Jan/11 at 6:15AM]
Date Posted: Sat Jan/22/11 at 4:53pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I should've read your line more closely it seems :p



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