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Combo Name: Never lose for 2 mana a turn Submitted By: Turbine
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Angel's Grace
 Instant W Time Spiral, Rare

Isochron Scepter
 Artifact 2 Mirrodin, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $10.30
Date Posted: Tue Dec/08/09 at 2:24 pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Play Isochron Scepter removing Angel's Grace. If you would go below 1 life or lose the game, pay 2 mana during your turn to survive.

This might have been posted before, and sorry if it was.


[Edited by Turbine on 8/Dec/09 at 2:25PM]
Date Posted: Tue Dec/08/09 at 8:21pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

You can still nuke the Scepter. The other vulnerability is a little harder to explain, and exploit. If you can cause life loss, not damage then you can reduce life to less than 1. Because life being at 0 runs on a static effect, you will lose the game at the end of you turn. You can't act faster than the effect is checked so a the end of your turn if you are at 0 from life loss then you lose the game. Not much causes life loss that you don't do to your self, but it is out there.
Date Posted: Thu Dec/10/09 at 2:20pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I believe you are wrong because you will live if you activate the ability before you go to 0 life. This will let you go to 1 life instead.
Date Posted: Thu Dec/10/09 at 2:29pm

B10h4z4rd
Posts: 35
Joined: 28-Aug-09

play the ability in reaction
Date Posted: Thu Dec/10/09 at 3:25pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

What psyche is trying to say is if you go to 0 life as a result of life loss this combo only protects you till end of turn.

The thing to remember is  while damage causes loss of life, loss of life is not damage.  Angel's grace only changes fatal damage to 1.  So if my oppenent is playing this combo and is at 2 life and I play Syphon Life, whichs causes target player to lose 2 life.  he can play angels song to stay alive with 0 life but then once the turn ends, statebased effects are checked, see he's at 0 life and then dies



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