Magic The Gathering Combos
Search Cards & Combos:

Home     Submit A Combo     Deck Builder     Forums     Picture Guess     Help

You are not logged in [click to login] - [Join For Free!]  





Forum Overview >> Combos
Combo Name: I hate this combo Submitted By: Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Vedalken Mastermind
 Creature - Human Wizard UU 1/2 Fifth Dawn, Uncommon

Oblivion Ring
 Enchantment 2W Lorwyn, Common
Estimated Combo Cost: $1.32
Date Posted: Sat Sep/25/10 at 4:57 am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

I've been getting killed with this thanks to stupid stack rules.
Date Posted: Sat Sep/25/10 at 5:33am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

Still, nice combo pal.
Date Posted: Sat Sep/25/10 at 6:35am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

With Unbender Tine. . .
Date Posted: Sat Sep/25/10 at 4:01pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I hate this.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/26/10 at 10:08pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

stack exploitation at its best...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 6:41am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Yeah. Tidehollow Sculler would work too.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 5:23pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

I don't really understand. Could someone explain?
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 6:32pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Took a while to explain it to me too, Scotty. The guy casts O-Ring, when that makes it to the battlefield, it starts a stack beginning with
1)exile permanent

Then he taps to "unsummon" his O-Ring:
2) return O-Ring to owner's hand.

Now, comes resolution: He returns O-Ring.
When that happens, O-Ring looks to bring back target exiled card...but it hasn't been exiled yet because we're still in stack resolution so there is no exiled card to bring back. Then finally the effect that started the stack: exile permanent.

Cheesy and dumb, but within the dumb stack rules...

I'm sure I made it more confusing than it had to be.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 7:08pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Also works with sacrificing the O-ring.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 7:09pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I hate O-ring since this got out
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 7:11pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I used O-ring in my Kithkin deck. Now, I use it in most of my decks. It has helped me a lot.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 9:43pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

I still don't understand what happens. Are you able to exile everything?
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 10:33pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Essentially... you exile per casting of O-Ring.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/27/10 at 10:34pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Right. Nasty...


[Edited by scottymandingo on 27/Sep/10 at 10:34PM]
Date Posted: Tue Sep/28/10 at 4:29am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

yup... that's why the victims of the combo hated it...
Date Posted: Tue Sep/28/10 at 8:58am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

4 mana to exile a non-land permanent.



Forum Overview >> Combos

©2006-2023 MTGCombos.com