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Combo Name: God Hand competition (Entry 2) Submitted By: Ephemerance
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Dragonstorm
Sorcery 8R Scourge, Rare

Pact of Negation
Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Pact of Negation
Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Pact of Negation
Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Black Lotus
Mono Artifact 0 Beta, Rare

Black Lotus
Mono Artifact 0 Beta, Rare

Black Lotus
Mono Artifact 0 Beta, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $4,109.05
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 2:15 am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09






I think this one takes the cake. It has three pacts of negation to counter Force of Wills. It uses the three black lotuses to boost the storm effect of dragonstorm, and when you search your library, you can bring into play 4 Kokusho, the Evening Stars. Because of the legendary rule, they will all hit the graveyard and make all opponents lose 20 life (making you gain the equivalent).

In a one versus one match, what are the weaknesses? Frankly, I don't know. Can you figure out any possible hands to stop this?
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 2:22am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I must make a minor addendum. I came to the realization that Leyline of the Void is a counter to using the black dragons. Instead, Search for 4 Bogardan Hellkites to deal 20 damage to your opponent.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 2:32am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Leyline of Sanctity works against the HellKites, but not against the Black dragons. I'm starting to think I was choosing the wrong dragon. Instead, go with Brimstone Dragons, or HellKite Overlords, or any other dragon with 5+ power and haste.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 3:57am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

With that in mind, I still don't know any counter to this combo.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 4:55am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

The new leyline for green... maybe...

EDIT: Opppsss... that's under your control... too bad... haha

[Edited by shakii23 on 15/Sep/10 at 4:58AM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 5:03am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Gemstone Caverns + awestrike...
And 2 FoWs...

The other cards could be anything...

[Edited by shakii23 on 15/Sep/10 at 5:05AM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 5:09am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

or not... you can fetch up to 7 dragons... hmmmm... let's see... how about Ethereal Haze.... Hahaha... I got you there...
and leyline of the void if you want to fetch Kokusho...

[Edited by shakii23 on 15/Sep/10 at 5:11AM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 5:20am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

EDIT: Another Revision... Leyline of Sanctity and Leyline of the void...
That's it...
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 5:33am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

The beauty of this combo is it's flexible, you'll have the Leylines already on the field for me to see and plan which dragons I want out. If I select at least 4 of them with haste with 5+ power, it's end game (even without being able to target you or being able to pull the Evening Star trick).
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 5:39am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

And remember, I can counter up to three of your spells, Ethereal Haze included.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:40am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

gemstone caverns, either spirit guide, trickbind - 3 cards to mess up your god hand
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:49pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Hahaha... he got you there... also since you're using 3 Black Lotuses... i'll use 5, then a Hindering Touch...
with leyline of anticipation, of course... now that's a counter...

[Edited by shakii23 on 15/Sep/10 at 8:50PM]
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 4:03am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

What would you use trickbind on? you can't use it on mana abilities like the Black Lotus.

Even if you were to cast that, why couldn't I just counter it with Pact of negation?
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 4:05am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Then how do you counter Hindering touch then?
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 4:10am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Oh right, split second, and you would be targeting the storm ability on dragonstorm right? Meaning I would only be able to get one dragon. I didn't think of that I suppose.

And the hindering touch is a pretty good one. I think you might have got me with that one, I'll have to think over this :p
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 4:22am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Wait, you can't have 5 Black lotus in a deck!

But nonetheless, you just need to sub one of them with a lotus petal and you're fine.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 5:20am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

haha, forgot about that one... got carried away because of the 3 BL you used... hahaha
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 5:35am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I would sub two of the Black Lotuses for Channel and a Blood Celebrant, but you could just start off by countering the first think I play out (the black lotus) before I have the power to respond.

I'm starting to wonder if any God-hand can go against that trick. Good one shakii
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 7:13pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Oh right, split second, and you would be targeting the storm ability on dragonstorm right? Meaning I would only be able to get one dragon.

yup
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 8:24pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You can't have 1 Black Lotus in a deck.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 8:31pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

sure you can.  there is this format called "casual", i realize it can be confusing but casual is a format that lets you play what you want

oh and you can have 1 in vintage
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 8:33pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Really? I didn't know that.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 9:35pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

In legacy?
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 9:36pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

oh it's banned in legacy...



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