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Combo Name: Ultimate Turn 1 Win competition (entry 1) Submitted By: Ephemerance
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Pact of Negation
 Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Pact of Negation
 Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Pact of Negation
 Instant 0 Future Sight, Rare

Black Lotus
 Mono Artifact 0 Beta, Rare

Black Lotus
 Mono Artifact 0 Beta, Rare

Grindstone
 Artifact 1 Tempest, Rare

Painter's Servant
 Artifact Creature - Scarecrow 2 1/3 Shadowmoor, Rare
Estimated Combo Cost: $2,780.01
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 1:59 am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

As far as I've seen, this is one of the most unstoppable combos for a turn 1 win. So I want to make a competition for the best (and most unstoppable) turn 1 win solutions. It doesn't matter how unlikely the hand is, I want to see the God hand of God hands.

I'll try to explain why I think this combo is the best so far:

1. Force of Will is renowned for messing up a first turn combo, but a player can only manage to pull off 3 of them from one starting hand, thus, I gave room for 3 pacts of negation (to counter the counters). This means that only 4 other cards are viable.

2. The only weakness to this combo is if your opponent has Emrakul in their deck, in which case, it will be an immediate draw (because of an unending mill loop).



I want you guys to critique this and find any possible weakness to this combination other than Emrakul.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 9:06am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

angel's grace, also same as the dragonstorm combo-there's 2

 
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 6:02pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

They have a hand of Force of Wills!
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 7:31pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

so
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:04pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Or maybe Emrakul... + Leyline of the void maybe?
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:08pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Also any of the legendary eldrazi, gaeas blessing, DC, serra, all will break the combo-it won't end in a draw.  The reason being is grindstone keeps going until it hits 2 cards that aren't the same color, with the servent they are all the same color so it keeps going to mill your deck, at some point you hit the eldrazi, blessing, or whatever and their ability triggers and goes chill on the stack until grindstone finishes resolve-that is until grindstone hits 2 different colors or their are no cards to mill, which is what happens with painter.

so now grindstone finishes and the eldraze/whatever trigger resolves shuffling the graveyard back into the library, essentially undoing everything grindstone did.  i consider that to be a very big weakness to your combo.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:27pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup... but leyline of the void can solve that...
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 8:39pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

which in turn opens him up to FOW
Date Posted: Wed Sep/15/10 at 9:07pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup... how about a gemstone Cavern with ancestral recall... top deck is the Painter and the Grindstone? No? sounds impossible? hahaha
Date Posted: Thu Sep/16/10 at 7:00am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Why do you have a second Pact of Negation?



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