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Evermind

Instant — Arcane

Saviors of Kamigawa

Read rules for Evermind
(Nonexistent mana costs can't be paid.) Draw a card. Splice onto Arcane {1}{U} (As you cast an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)

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Isochron Scepter

{2}

Artifact

Mirrodin

Read rules for Isochron Scepter
Imprint — When this artifact enters, you may exile an instant card with mana value 2 or less from your hand. {2}, {T}: You may copy the exiled card. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

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Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 12:17 pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Cuz evermind doesnt have a CMC
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 12:50pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How would this work?

Don't they have a CMC of 0?


[Edited by Turbine on 23/Jul/10 at 12:51PM]
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 1:18pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Sorry Twogunkid. The copy form Isochron Scepter isn't cast. It's a copy. It is rule 706.9 of the comprehensive rule book. Since it isn't cast this doesn't work.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 1:41pm

Captain_Joe
Posts: 80
Joined: 20-Jul-10

it was a good idea though :)
Date Posted: Sun Jul/25/10 at 8:31pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I believe it is still counted as an arcane spell, as it is a copy...
Date Posted: Sun Jul/25/10 at 8:33pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

And you still cast it. Note the actual wording of Isochron Scepter...
2, T : You may copy the exiled card. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.
Date Posted: Mon Jul/26/10 at 12:06am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

yes it is still counted as an arcane and is still cast, as it is the card that is copied not the spell so 709 doesnt apply
Date Posted: Mon Jul/26/10 at 3:59am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Yup, this works. Even though you normally can't play Evermind, Iso Scepter allows you to play the copy (because you ignore the mana cost)
Date Posted: Mon Jul/26/10 at 4:59am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yeah... How i wish ancestral vision was an instant... LOL...
Date Posted: Mon Jul/26/10 at 9:17am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

yes it works!
Date Posted: Mon Jul/26/10 at 6:30pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yay...
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:16pm

Gamber
Posts: 8
Joined: 10-Jan-11

Would this get ride of all land because they have a cmc of 0?
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:17pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I would assume so, since it is in the name.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:18pm

Gamber
Posts: 8
Joined: 10-Jan-11

I'm a dumb@$$ I should of read the title!!! sorry!
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:20pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

It's fine, broski.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:23pm

Twogunkid
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Joined: 22-Jan-10



Arise Old Combo Arise!!!
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:23pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

EDIT: Double Post


[Edited by Twogunkid on 3/Oct/11 at 8:23PM]
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 8:24pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Squirrel?



Brainssss


[Edited by Lin sivvi on 3/Oct/11 at 8:25PM]
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 11:16pm

xvmileycyrus
Posts: 108
Joined: 29-Sep-11

but isochron says that you have to imprint a card with converted mana cost 2 or less. 0 is still a mana cost, but in this situation the card has no cost so how can you imprint it.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/03/11 at 11:20pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Evermind like land or lotus bloom has not explicit CMC however it is treated as having CMC 0 for search and effect cards for example Green suns zenith at zero can fetch dryad arbor
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 5:30am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

As 2GK says, cards with no mana cost have a Converted mana cost of 0.




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