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Combo Name: murderous order Submitted By: Captain_Joe
Card Name
Type
Cost
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Juniper Order Ranger
Creature - Human Knight 3GW 2/4 Coldsnap, Uncommon

Murderous Redcap
Creature - Goblin Assassin 2(B/R)(B/R) 2/2 Shadowmoor, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $2.57
Date Posted: Wed Jul/21/10 at 2:22 pm

Captain_Joe
Posts: 80
Joined: 20-Jul-10

let murderous redcap deal damage to itself. +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters cancel each other. give juniper order ranger trample.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/21/10 at 5:18pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I have seen Juniper Order Ranger used many times with Persist, but not in such a simple form.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/21/10 at 6:46pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I think i've already seen this one... maybe with a sac engine or something...
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 12:52am

Keldor
Posts: 23
Joined: 12-Jul-10

Im not sure if this will work !

Because when it gets an -1/-1 counter and when it enters the +1/+1 counter. These two counter negeate each other but are still on this creature. When the goblin is killed again, it has a -1 counter and doesnt return !
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 12:55am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

no this works, when a +1/+1 counter and  -1/-1 counter are on the same creature, they cancel each other out and the creature ends up with no counters
Date Posted: Fri Jul/23/10 at 4:53am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Post the rules saying that, so he understands...
Date Posted: Sat Jul/24/10 at 1:01am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

per shakii wish

120.2. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/25/10 at 8:23pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

There... i think he got the point...



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