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scornful offering

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Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 7:15 pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

play scornful egotist for its morph cost, then use burnt offering to sacrifice it for 8 mana in any combination of black or red mana.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 7:15pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

EDIT: i meant play it for 3 THEN use its morph cost. sorry.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 7:43pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Very nice!! Mana accel red and black style.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 7:54pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Could be a second turn phage... with Island, Sol Ring... Next turn, Swamp, then morph then offering... then phage...
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 1:40am

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

can you sacrafice an evoked creature in response to playing it?
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 1:40am

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

haha you know... before you sacrafice it a second later anyways
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 1:42am

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

 

like dark ritualing into a shriekmaw and sacraficing it with burnt offering?
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 10:53am

Seraphic
Posts: 123
Joined: 03-Apr-09

I think you can, in response to it coming into play activate Burnt Offering.

In addition to cast Burnt Offering you need to sacrifice a creature.

When placing it on the stack. Offering goes above it. Sacrifice Shriekmaw. You obtain 5 mana in combination of choice. Then Shriekmaw triggers because it still came into play.

I vote yes, you can do that.

Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 11:01am

Seraphic
Posts: 123
Joined: 03-Apr-09

Plus, it's a mana source so it is allowed to be cast in the middle of an ability or effect. Such as Evoke. Mana sources resolve instantly.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 11:58am

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

thats awsome haha. you could build an evoke deck that runs sac engines
Date Posted: Sat Jul/17/10 at 4:15pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I really doubt that, you can't sacrifice a creature already doomed to be sacrificed.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/17/10 at 5:04pm

Seraphic
Posts: 123
Joined: 03-Apr-09

Yeah you can, for evoke you can't because it's in the middle of the effect. But burnt offering is a mana source so it can interrupt the ability to resolve
Date Posted: Sat Jul/17/10 at 7:27pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

That isn't what I learned. . .
Date Posted: Sun Jul/18/10 at 2:30am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

First off, yes most of the time, you can sacrifice a creature that is doomed to be sacrificed.  things that cause sacifices use the stack as well, so if my opponent targets my creature with a mercy killing, its going to be saced however I can sac it to burnt offering instead before the mercy killing resolve.  I'll get to how that applies here in a second

second: there is no point where a spell or ability can be interrupted once it starts resolving, even by mana sources.  if evoke worked the way you think it does (as one continous action from putting the creature to play through sacing it) then you would not have an opportunity to play the offering.

third: as i implied above evoke is not a continous action.  Evoke as a mechanic is made up of two abilitys a static one whey you can pay x cost to put the creature in play.  and a trigger ability which says "when this comes into play if evoke cost was paid sac it."  Since the sac part of evoke is a trigger it uses the stack, so before it resolves you have an opportunity to play the offering or any other instant , such as mercy killing, champion it, bounce it.  i actually us evoke creatures in my RW slide deck, pay them for their evoke, slide them before the trigger resolves, and when they come back into play they are a new creature that came into play without the evoke cost so they get to stick around
Date Posted: Sun Jul/18/10 at 9:22am

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

My question was whether you could target your creature for sacrificing for a Devouring Greed, then sacrifice it to something else.




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