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Combo Name: Lifegain for multiplayer Submitted By: Ephemerance
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Crystal Spray
 Instant 2U Invasion, Rare

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
 Legendary Land Planar Chaos, Rare

Lifetap
 Enchantment UU Beta, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $19.98
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 4:28 am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I didn't realize it said target opponent. Anyway, great lifegain all the same.




[Edited by Ephemerance on 14/Jul/10 at 4:30AM]
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 12:47pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

This would be good in an archenemy deck. and I think it can be multiple opponants. I would have to read the cards harder.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 1:49pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Alas, it says target... nice simple combo though.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 2:10pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

but as it triggers, the target can change. maybe we are not on the same page.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 4:04pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

The oracle text reads "As Roots of Life enters the battlefield, choose Islands or Swamps.

Whenever a land of the chosen type an opponent controls becomes tapped, you gain 1 life."


So maybe it really is all opponents? Hmm..
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 4:12pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

it is all opponants. it triggers whenever ANY opponant taps a swamp. then resolves, the=an triggers again for ANY opponant. Its a great combo and it works. Good Job.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 4:14pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

If you were playing against a mono Green deck and you had Roots and the swamp maker out. you will domanate.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 5:49pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

From gather.wizards.com "10/4/2004    In multi-player games it affects all opponents." It works now.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 9:01pm

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

nice
Date Posted: Wed Jul/14/10 at 9:05pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Nice one...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 2:52pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

yah, WotC changed ALOT of the old cards that said "target opponent" to "an opponent"  a few years ago, when the game started picking up multiplayer popularity. (about 7 years ago, actually lol)
but yah, this combo is fun. i use it in my mono-green EDH (since urborg has no mana symbols on it I can use it, along with Spreading Algae and Mana Web) which also now says "any opponent"
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 6:57pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

but the black mana that the lands produce will just be colorless anyway... just to make all lands swamp...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 8:21pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

All the lands in play will be able to be tapped for black mana in addition to any other ability they have.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 9:42pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

He said mono-green EDH so when you use it there, it's just colorless mana instead of black...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 9:49pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10


Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 9:49pm

Eldraziking187
Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

this is true.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 9:52pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

So i just made it clear... that is if he's talking about the mono-green EDH having Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 11:25pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Oh, okay, used for colourless costs. I get it now :p
Date Posted: Thu Jul/15/10 at 11:43pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Huh?
Date Posted: Fri Jul/16/10 at 11:59pm

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

The Urbog land doesn't produce colourless mana; it produces black mana which can be used for the colourless costs of cards. It's just a technicality.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/18/10 at 6:50pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yes, it can produce black mana, but still a black mana that cannot be used for activation costs requiring black mana is as good as colorless mana...
Date Posted: Sun Jul/18/10 at 8:02pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

It should affect all opponents.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/18/10 at 10:07pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Only if their deck colors does not include black on it...

[Edited by shakii23 on 18/Jul/10 at 10:07PM]
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 1:02am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

We're saying the same thing shakii :p
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 4:13am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yeah... I'm just clearing it up for Turbine...
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 8:23am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Well, you are just confusing me all the more.
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 6:36pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

What are we talking about again?
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 6:38pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

No idea. Could you help with the Ally deck I (re)posted.
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 7:22pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I answered.. that is one problematic ally deck... plus not enough duals or fetch lands...
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 7:24pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I will add Seaside Citadels if possible.
Date Posted: Mon Jul/19/10 at 10:42pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

And also the Red mana is also needed from lands... Not just from Harabaz Druid...



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