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Combo Name: Simple as 13 1/1s Submitted By: Turbine
Card Name
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Broodhatch Nantuko
 Creature - Insect Druid 1G 1/1 Onslaught, Uncommon

Shivan Meteor
 Sorcery 3RR Planar Chaos, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $0.58
Date Posted: Mon Jun/28/10 at 12:27 pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

There is also a squirrel card with the same ability as the Nantuko.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/28/10 at 1:40pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

How about giviing the Nantuko, regen? will it still produce tokens? Because in regenerate, the rule text says, remove all damage from creature...
Date Posted: Mon Jun/28/10 at 3:05pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You could make it indestructible.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/28/10 at 9:53pm

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Regenerate works fine. The damage is removed from the creature, not prevented.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/29/10 at 9:21am

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

indestructible doesn't prevent damage. The only static ability that prevents damage is protection form a color, and absorb (which is only found on the lymph sliver). If you use an enchantment to make a creature indestructible and he take damage, he can be surprise killed by disenchanting him.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/29/10 at 10:13am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

No one said that Indestructibility prevents damage.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/29/10 at 11:49am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

There's a card called Lashknife Barrier that gives creatures you control an ability identical to Absorb 1, although they never changed it in the oracle to reflect this. From what I can see, making him indestructible would be a better option if you used a recurring source of damage, and regeneration would work better if you used something to do it all in one shot like Shivan Metoer. I would experiment with a few of both in the deck if I were you and make your own decision.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/29/10 at 1:23pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Regeneration prevents ALL damage from one turn.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/29/10 at 11:35pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

"Regeneration prevents ALL damage from one turn."

regeneration does not prevent any damage, at all.  Paradox is correct, It only removes the damage that was dealt.  While the end result is the same (the creature has no damage on it) there is a fundemental difference between the too.  Case in point, If the damage was prevented this combo would be worthless with regen
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 3:08am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Regeneration also only removes the damage dealt up to the point of regeneration. If the creature takes lethal damage again later in the turn, it needs to regenerate again.

But still, 13 tokens for 5 mana isn't bad, especially with Coat of Arms... :D
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 7:20am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Regeneration says that the next time that creature would be destroyed, it isn't. Instead, tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat.

Could you regenerate a creature twice in one turn?
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 7:28am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Yes, you can regenerate as many times as you want during one turn.

Basically, the easiest way to think about Regeneration is that it sets up a 'shield' on the creature until the end of the turn (as despite the flavour of a dead creature regrowing itself, the Regeneration ability itself must be played before the event that kills it).

If a permanent (Any permanent can be regenerated, creatures are just the most common) has one or more of these 'shields', the next time it would be destroyed (either by lethal damage, or a destroy effect), a shield is used up instead. When a shield is used like this the permanent becomes tapped, removed from combat, and any damage is removed.

If a creature has already regenerated and lost it's damage, any further damage will be treated normally and can kill the creature again.

i.e. someone Shocks your 2 toughness creature with a regen shield. The creature would die to taking damage=to it's toughness, but has a regen shield so it doesn't die. If someone shocks it again later in the turn it will die (unless you can regen it again).
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 7:29am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

What non-creature cards have regenerate?
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 7:36am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Loxodon Mender, Metallurgeon, Pteron Ghost and Welding Jar can regenerate any artifact. Reknit can regenerate any permanent. I think that's about it though...

Admittedly the non-creature regeneration effects are rare, but they are around :)
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 7:39am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I've never thought of using Metallurgeon to regenerate anything other than creatures. (head-desk)
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 9:59am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

I enjoy regenerating Nevinyrral's Disk myself...
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 1:33pm

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

dude my friend plays a deck that runs shield of the oversoul the broodhatch and pariah. stupid boss combo.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 2:11pm

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Meh, sounds like a job for Singe

(or, you know, Naturalize or one of the many, many other enchantment destruction cards)
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 2:19pm

fakepinata
Posts: 183
Joined: 26-Jun-10

lol it would be but privledged possition field lock makes it stupid!
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 5:25pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You do know that you can't regenerate a sacrificed creature, right?
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 9:34pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup, you can't regenerate a creature that you have already thrown to the pits...
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 9:36pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

That would be too broken. With cards like Clergy of the Holy Nimbus.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/30/10 at 11:13pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Regenerate is like an effect healing the creature involved... If you throw a creature to the pits, even if you heal that, it will still die... Tissue regeneration can only do that much...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 4:20pm

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

I play with a guy who loves to SotO his Godsires... and I love to make him regret doing it with simple things like Unsummon and Journey to Nowhere.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 4:22pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

SotO? Sword of the. . .Ominous?
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 4:22pm

ParadoxRemix
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Joined: 22-Feb-10

Shield of the Oversoul
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 4:23pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Ohhhhh, yeah! I remember that now.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 10:12pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

LOL... Take it easy... Most of us don't know what SotO means... Not like a much more famous cards such as FoW or LB...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 10:15pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I keep thinking Fog of War for some reason.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 10:38pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

LOL... Can't blame you on that one... I've been playing RTS games and when i first heard FoW (Force of Will, FYI), my first thought was Fog of War? I even thought that there was a card named "Fog of War" and it's ability is somewhat the same as "Fog"...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 10:39pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I'm not alone anymore. . .
Date Posted: Thu Jul/01/10 at 10:46pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

You thought you were alone... I'm pretty sure there is some guy (other than you) reading this post and thinking "What the hell does FoW stands for? Fog of War?"...
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 5:03am

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

I had no idea what FoW was, and I still have no idea what LB is. For future reference, the only time I use terms like this is when a card has already been mentioned earlier in the post.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 7:54am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Well, I'm not sure who else plays RTS games.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 7:59pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

LB, FYI is Lightning Bolt... Most of the infamous cards are called that way for obvious reason that we are just to lazy to say the whole word when we know what it means shortened/abbreviated...



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