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I guess you can say this is a lockdown!!!!

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Isochron ScepterEnlarge

Isochron Scepter

{2}

Artifact

Mirrodin

Read rules for Isochron Scepter
Imprint — When this artifact enters, you may exile an instant card with mana value 2 or less from your hand. {2}, {T}: You may copy the exiled card. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

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Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 6:49 pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Turn 1: Swamp, sacrifice Lotus Petal, Isochron Scepter, Remove Hoodwink from the game.

Turn 2: Swamp, Dark Ritual, play Braids, Cabal Minion. Now depending on what your opponent did on his first turn, he sacrifices whatever, when it comes to your turn, after untap step, tap both your swamps to bring back Lotus Petal to your hand with Isochron Scepter. At your upkeep, sacrifice one of your swamps, play another, and then you'll always have Lotus Petal to drop, sacrifice it and return it, repeat this process every turn, so you don't have to sacrifice anything else but Lotus Petal. Now again see how your opponent played and it could be a funny finish.............


[Edited by ARCANIS on 15/Jun/10 at 6:54PM]
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 7:04pm

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

how are you getting lotus petal back? if you hoodwink it you still have to sacrifice an artifact, creature or land.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 7:32pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I think that he is trying to sacrifice the Lotus Petal for mana, then return it in response with the Hoodwink.

However, this won't work. Part of the cost of the card is to sacrifice it. You pay the cost, then the ability triggers.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:11pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Are you talking about returning lotus petal from the graveyard to owner's hand?
If yes, Hoodwink needs the target to be in play...

OR

Are you talking about bouncing the Petal before it was sacrificed?
If yes, then this also won't work because activation cost is much faster than any instant/interrupts... Once, you paid it, the sacrificing cost can't be stopped...
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:13pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

That is pretty much what I said. . . .
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:34pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Or to make it even easier, Remove a Boomerang instead of Hoodwink, and Return Braids at the end of their turn, and recast it after your upkeep. But this will require at least four swamps so like a turn 4 boot.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:36pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Or you can have Stifle on the stick, will also work. In fact, Stifle would be the best bet because it can start on turn 2  :O

[Edited by ARCANIS on 15/Jun/10 at 8:38PM]
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:37pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

What would you stifle?
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:39pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Braids triggered ability to prevent the sacrifice on your part
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:40pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

I guess that that would work.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:41pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

It does, and boots on second turn!!!!!!!
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 8:56pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Excited, are we?
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 7:27am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

Stifle would work, good choice arcanis.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 1:16pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

7 Exclamationn marks makes all the difference. The most I use is 3.




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