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Endless Rats and 1 Life With Lich

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Lich

{B}{B}{B}{B}

Enchantment

Limited Edition Alpha

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As this enchantment enters, you lose life equal to your life total. You don't lose the game for having 0 or less life. If you would gain life, draw that many cards instead. Whenever you're dealt damage, sacrifice that many nontoken permanents. If you can't, you lose the game. When this enchantment is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you lose the game.

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Plague of Vermin

{6}{B}

Sorcery

Shadowmoor

Read rules for Plague of Vermin
Starting with you, each player may pay any amount of life. Repeat this process until no one pays life. Each player creates a 1/1 black Rat creature token for each 1 life they paid this way.

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Date Posted: Sun Jun/13/10 at 8:29 pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Because you pay life you make any ammount of rats, (say 10,000,000,000) lich keeps you from losing tap ali deal 1 to yourself sac a permanent (a rat) and ali puts you at one life. Because he would reduce your total to less than 1 (-10,000,000,001) so he puts you at one but you do not gain life, so you go to 1 instead of drawing.
Date Posted: Sun Jun/13/10 at 9:18pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

. . . . . . BWAHAHAHAHA thats funny lol i like it
Date Posted: Sun Jun/13/10 at 9:23pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

too bad i just realized two things.....
i thought it was too good to be true, seems i was correct.

first
116.3. A player can’t pay a cost unless he or she has the necessary resources to pay it fully. For
example, a player with only 1 life can’t pay a cost of 2 life, and a permanent that’s already tapped
can’t be tapped to pay a cost. See rule 202, “Mana Cost and Color,” and rule 602, “Activating
Activated Abilities.”

117.4. If a cost or effect allows a player to pay an amount of life greater than 0, the player may do so
only if his or her life total is greater than or equal to the amount of the payment. If a player pays
life, the payment is subtracted from his or her life total. (Players can always pay 0 life.)

and second....

117.5. If an effect sets a player’s life total to a specific number, the player gains or loses the necessary
amount of life to end up with the new total.

sorry about the wall of text there buddy.  and its too bad it dont work, it woulda been fun to use next tuesday lol


Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 3:43am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Another small addendum is that Ali prevents damage, but Lich makes you lose life (which means lich would still drop you to zero life).

I wonder how a stifle or two would work on lich though.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 4:22pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I doubt that this would work.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 5:38pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

under alpha rules it would because you could go below one life as long as you were positive at the end step.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 6:14pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

You know the Alpha rules? Why?
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 7:06pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

too bad the alpha rules dont exist anymore lol
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 7:38pm

Turbine
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That is why I wonder why you know the Alpha rules.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 8:45pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

some of us (ME ME ME! lol) have been playing that long. i know. im old. bite me lol
Date Posted: Mon Jun/14/10 at 8:59pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I need to find some way to get my uncle's old Underground Sea.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 7:28am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

From the start Jmd? we should form an old fogey club
Date Posted: Tue Jun/15/10 at 9:13am

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

I find it funny that the person with a Mr. T avatar called himself old.

 

Edit: and the person with a comic book avatar. (^_^)


[Edited by Turbine on 15/Jun/10 at 9:14AM]
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 12:44pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
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Mr T and Comic Books rule, you damn young whippersnappers and your mathematical formulae for "pi".....
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 1:12pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Chuck Norris can count out all of pi, but Mr. T pities the fool who needs to know that.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 1:15pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

I would imagine both Mr. T and a comic book person being more of something that teenagers would like. . .
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 1:33pm

Twogunkid
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Joined: 22-Jan-10

Mr. T was big when the origonal A-Team was on TV
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 1:52pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

Yeah, I guess so. . .
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 6:40pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

good ol' A team, always shooting, never hitting . . . ever . . . like seriously never . . . I mean c'mon . . . they would destroy everything around but not the target . . . that isn't even like possible . . . why would you want their help? . . . I would be afraid that they would hit me.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 6:52pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 7:02pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

everyone knows the show to watch was battlestar gallactica.

Random thought. New Goldeneye game. This fall wii. Awesome.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/16/10 at 10:38pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

coincerning the A team what always got me was how the cars and trucks would flip over 4-5 times and then the people would crawl out, and once in a blue moon they would have some blood on them




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