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Pyromancer's SwathEnlarge

Pyromancer's Swath

{2}{R}

Enchantment

Future Sight

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If an instant or sorcery source you control would deal damage to a permanent or player, it deals that much damage plus 2 to that permanent or player instead. At the beginning of each end step, discard your hand.

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Date Posted: Fri May/28/10 at 5:02 pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Lotus cast swath

lotus 3 lightning bolts for 15

mountain last lightning bolt for 5
Date Posted: Sat May/29/10 at 3:37pm

ParadoxRemix
Posts: 389
Joined: 22-Feb-10

LMFAO @ 2 lotuses...
Date Posted: Sat May/29/10 at 3:39pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I use Force of Will on your final Lightning Bolt!

Edit: I could also Dispel your final Lightning Bolt.


[Edited by Turbine on 29/May/10 at 3:40PM]
Date Posted: Sat May/29/10 at 9:52pm

Thnikkamann
Posts: 13
Joined: 29-May-10

You see... This plan hinges on having two black lotuses...

Why don't you just get 4 lotuses and play Emrakul in one turn?  Seems much easier.
Date Posted: Sat May/29/10 at 9:53pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

but its not turn 1, that and if you ever draw this sort of thing its really fun. Tust me it is
Date Posted: Sun May/30/10 at 12:30am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09


Date Posted: Sun May/30/10 at 12:36am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

Since the other player must have gone first, they could have a plain's mana and cast:



Since you lose your entire hand at the end of every turn due to the enchantment, if your opponent plays this your combo is completely disabled.


[Edited by Ephemerance on 30/May/10 at 12:59AM]
Date Posted: Sun May/30/10 at 1:10am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I mean, it's cool to kill someone with damage, but it's clearly easier with something like:

Black Lotus x 2
Mountain

Add 3 red, 3 black

play Mog Maniac,
play Unstable Footing (damage can't be prevented),
play Fire Covenant (spend 17 life, target the Mog),
play Lightning Bolt (3 to opponent's life),

There, not only can we limit it down to 7 cards so you can kill in the first turn, but you even get to finish off with the lightning bolt for kicks.
Date Posted: Sun May/30/10 at 8:42pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Ummmm, since when is 2 black lotuses even legal?
Date Posted: Sun May/30/10 at 10:02pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

casual. And if you played when beta was type two
Date Posted: Mon May/31/10 at 9:41am

DuffCapers
Posts: 33
Joined: 20-May-10

Ya, except back when "Beta was type 2" there was no Type1/2/1.5 nonsense.  It was just legal or not.  And I'm not sure I remember, but Black lotus and moxen were restricted to 1 per deck PRETTY early on...maybe around Beta or Unlimited release in '93.  It might have taken them till Revised to do it, but not sure.


Either way, 2 loti in a deck is something that not even my casual group would allow - just too over powered if you happen to draw both early, and the two combos posted here are case and point.




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