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Title: Cloning Planeswalkers
Date Posted: Wed Oct/08/14 at 9:12pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

So here in lies my problem. I want to clone a planeswalker and have it and the original survive whilst controlling both.
I was hoping Shakashima the Impostor would be the answer to this, however it would seem that becoming a copy of a Planeswalker creature makes the copy just a Planeswalker, and regardless, the planeswalkers would share the same subtype. Hence my problem.
Purely for science (or Magic, as it is) does anyone have any idea how to accomplish this?
Date Posted: Thu Oct/09/14 at 8:32am

dracojai6C4mtg
Posts: 22
Joined: 17-Dec-13

Would the "the legendary rule does not apply" card help here?
Date Posted: Thu Oct/09/14 at 9:26am

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

No, Planeswalkers use their own rule, not the legendary rule.

One of my older combos managed to duplicate Gideon, but it rendered the original into a vanilla enchantment creature to do it. That combo involved:
-Gideon's ability to become a creature himself.
-Soul Sculptor to make Gideon into an ability-less enchantment.
-Opalescence to make the now enchantment Gideon into a creature again.
-Splinter Twin or similar to allow Gideon to make a copy of himself. Since he did not have the Gideon subtype, or even the Planeswalker card type anymore, the copy was safe.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/09/14 at 11:57pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

The thing that worries me is the errata on Gideon and the new Sarkhan, about the copy of the creature somehow getting the planeswalker subtype.

"If a permanent enters the battlefield as a copy of Sarkhan after his first ability has resolved, the copy will be a Sarkhan planeswalker. It will enter the battlefield with four loyalty counters, no matter how many loyalty counters are on the original Sarkhan. You’ll then find yourself in the same situation described above."

I was hoping it had to do with the new super Clone that Khans of Tarkir printed, but Sarkhan's first ability notes that he does not lose loyalty counters when not a planeswalker, which would mean that the clone would oddly be a planewalker even when the creature (at the moment) wouldn't be a planeswalker....
Date Posted: Fri Oct/10/14 at 9:35am

terakhan
Posts: 636
Joined: 24-Mar-13

That difference is how my Gideon cloning worked, oddly enough. Since Gideon was not a walker, the rules ignored him.

[Edited by terakhan on 10/Oct/14 at 9:36AM]