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Title: I have a question.
Date Posted:
Fri Jul/20/12 at 6:57pm
MagicPunk
Posts: 37
Joined: 26-Sep-10
What happens to a creature if you use Act Of Treason on it and then Cloudshift on it. Do you keep the creature because it comes into play its refresh.
Date Posted:
Fri Jul/20/12 at 8:16pm
gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09
it returns to play under your control as a new object forgetting it was orginally under someone elses
Date Posted:
Fri Jul/20/12 at 8:49pm
MagicPunk
Posts: 37
Joined: 26-Sep-10
Okay thanks.
Date Posted:
Mon Jul/23/12 at 9:09pm
scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09
Now I have one: A creature has Persist and Undying. Comes back with no counters?
Date Posted:
Mon Jul/23/12 at 11:25pm
gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09
no it has a counter but which one and when depends on how it is stacked the first time it dies.
Persist and undying are both triggered abilities. so when a creature with both dies both trigger. since they both went off at the same time you control the order they go on the stack.
If you put persist on the stack first, the undying trigger with resolve first bringing the creature back with a +1/+1 counter. Persist would then try to resolve but will fizzle because the creature is no longer in the grave.
now when the creature dies again, undying will NOT trigger because the creature has a +1/+1 counter, however, persist will trigger bringing the creature back with a -1/-1 counter. when it dies after that persist doesn't trigger because of the negative counter, but undying does, going back and forth switching counters each time it dies
Date Posted:
Mon Jul/23/12 at 11:36pm
scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09
Beautiful. :)
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