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Title: Unearth Question
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 1:16am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

How does conjurer's closet interact with unearth? My first instinct is to think that it would work, since blinking effects allow you to deal with unearth. But when i looked it up, I didn't see anything, and I couldn't help but think that if they worked together, people would be talking about.... Here's the rule for unearth if people are unsure what it does:

702.82a Unearth is an activated ability that functions while the card with unearth is in a graveyard. "Unearth [cost]" means "[Cost]: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery."
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 6:06am

Nickosis
Posts: 154
Joined: 31-Mar-12

It is a very tricky priority issue. You control the permanents so you choose which happens first. Just like your most recent combo: Umbilicus and Delaying shield. That is my understanding. If your combo works then this would work. Since the creature has been exiled with Closet when it comes back it is already after the beginning of the end step.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 6:24am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Except when the closet goes to exile it, unearth would kick-in and exile it itself, so it wouldn't be exiled by the closet and would not come back.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 6:50am

Nickosis
Posts: 154
Joined: 31-Mar-12

I'm sure it would because you choose priority on which one happens first since they happen at the same time.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 7:16am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Yeah, so in an attempt to make it work you have it so that the closet resolves first. The creature goes to the exile, but unearth sees it trying to leave the battlefield and exiles it, there is no way I can think of to avoid it.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 8:12am

Nickosis
Posts: 154
Joined: 31-Mar-12

It gets exiled with the cloest. The closet does the work so unearth isn't even looked at. The way I understand priority is that the first ability resolves and when it does unearth is negated.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 9:04am

hypnoschaos
Posts: 22
Joined: 15-Feb-11

According to MTG Salvation Wiki
"If a creature returned to play with unearth would leave the battlefield
for any reason, it's exiled instead — unless the spell or ability that's
causing the creature to leave the battlefield is actually trying to
exile it. In that case, it succeeds at exiling it. If it later returns
the creature card to the battlefield (as Oblivion Ring or Flickerwisp
might, for example), the creature card will return as a new object with
no relation to its previous existence. The unearth effect will no
longer apply to it."

It would appear this combo will work.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 11:13am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

So, as long as Conjurer's Closet can resolve before Unearth's end of turn trigger, it works. My question was about timing.

Like I said initially, I feel like this works, but I haven't seen anything on it, that's why I asked.

[Edited by TheCaptain on 18/May/12 at 11:14AM]
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 12:12pm

Nickosis
Posts: 154
Joined: 31-Mar-12

The timing issue is not an issue because YOU have priority over your permanets. You can choose to have it Unearth itself out or Closet itself. Just like your Umbilicus/Delaying Shield combo. It works also like Sneak Attack/Archwing Dragon. Priority
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 1:16pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Remember that unearth has two effects:
  1. Exile this creature at the beginning of the end step
  2. If this creature would leave the battlefield exile it instead
Due to the second part the closet would not be able to exile it as it is being exiled by the second ability.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 1:18pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Captain

Priority is not the word I wold use, but Nick is essentially correct.  Both triggers natural occur at the end step at the same time, since you control both triggers you control the order they go on the stack and therefore resolve as you want.  However, thats not all there is to it...

Unearth is an activated ability that creates a delayed trigger ability (the end step part) and a replacement effect (when it leaves the battlefield).  The thing to remember is unearth's replacement effect doesn't occur because it does occur.  Unearth wants it to go to exile rather then anywhere else, the closet takes it to exile.  Unearth sees the card going where it wanted it to go, so its happy.  The fact it comes back is illrelevent.

If closet said the card goes to the grave rather then exile.  Then the card will always get exiled no matter how the abilitys are stacked because of the replacement.
Date Posted: Fri May/18/12 at 7:31pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Ah, that was the part I was missing.



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