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Title: Most Pointless Card
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 12:05am

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

I've noticed that lately with these unbelievable sets, Creatures are just overpowered, but there are some that do absolutely nothing. I will pull up the first one:

Scornful Egotist 7U
Morph U
1/1

The only good use for this card is converted mana cost, which isn't very usable with blue.
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 12:59am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

I wouldn't call it pointless, look when the the egotist was printed, scourge had a bunch of cards that was concerned about the mana cost.  It worked in its set. granted it doesn't fit in todays meta

I would say sorrows path is the most pointless.
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 4:57am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup, that's right... Look at rush of knowledge.. with him on the field, you will draw 8 cards for a mere 4U... Of course not including the morph cost and facedown cost of egoist...

Not to mention, accelerated mutation... for 2GG, egoist or any creature gets +8/+8... Slightly better than Might of Oaks if you ask me,...


[Edited by shakii23 on 25/Mar/10 at 4:58AM]
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 12:10pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

Pointless card [ Storm Crow ]

Look its even worth $0.00 from aliance
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 3:00pm

Skybreak22
Posts: 327
Joined: 01-Feb-10

I know I've brought this card up recently, but again, it fits the topic......most pointless card in existence.......Steamflogger Boss.  Sure, multiple copies can give you 4/3 hasty critters, but otherwise useless.......meh.
Date Posted: Thu Mar/25/10 at 8:33pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Egoist is not a pointless card because it has a synergy with other cards and i think it's a strong synergy... And the bird creature 1/2 flier for 1U, that's ok for a blue card... Most of the 2 to cast flier is either 1/1 or has a drawback... If you really want to see pointless cards, check the Legendary creatures from Legends (hard to cast legends and not so hard to kill because of low toughness in comparison to these day's creature with that same or almost the same casting costs)... Its either they have no abilities, 1 weak ability, ability that are hard to activate..  My favorite is Tobias Andrion... He's a chick magnet (check his art) but has no ability... 3WU to cast for a 4/4 Legendary Creature - Human Advisor. Who will put this Legends on their decks? Who will use them as generals on EDH?

Now you tell me if these cards are not pointless...
Date Posted: Sat Apr/17/10 at 5:42pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Simple, a 4/4 wasn't bad, when the most powerful card commonly used is craw wurm (6/4)
Though as magic has progressed, they have been making more and more powerful creatures (RoE being the perfect example).
Date Posted: Sat Apr/17/10 at 10:11pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

He's right I got a lot of older cards when I started and my idea of a normal big creture was the 3/3 trokin high guard from portal and an enourmous creature was an 8/5 whiptail wurm
Date Posted: Sun Apr/18/10 at 8:49pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well, for me pointless cards are those cards that has high CMC with low P/T compared to it's CMC... and no abilities... Much like the Legendary creatures of Legends...
Date Posted: Mon Apr/26/10 at 4:40pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10


Wait. . .  What.
Date Posted: Mon Apr/26/10 at 4:43pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

you can use this as combo card but should not be an uncommon the point is to draw a card though
Date Posted: Mon Apr/26/10 at 4:47pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Think about that. . .
Use a card to draw a card. . .
No gain. . .
The real reason is to prevent domination and the like.
As for the rarity, you must remember that the rarer cards weren't meant to be better, just more obscure use.  This has changed over the years, but it was how it was in the origanal.
Date Posted: Mon Apr/26/10 at 10:49pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

thanks for showing this card it will work well in one of my decks

and while there is no gain played right there is no loss either, and actually played right there was the potential for gain, remember this card was printed when damage still went on the stack, so if a creature was going to die you can change it into possibly a playable card, while still being able to do lethal damage to an opponents creature
Date Posted: Tue Apr/27/10 at 12:15am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

For you guys, i'll post all the pointless cards that i know...
Date Posted: Tue Apr/27/10 at 12:35am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09


Barktooth Warbeard







Barktooth Warbeard
4BlackRedRed (7)



Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
(6/5)

Jasmine Boreal







Jasmine Boreal
3GreenWhite (5)



Legendary Creature — Human
(4/5)

Jedit Ojanen







Jedit Ojanen
4WhiteWhiteBlue (7)



Legendary Creature — Cat Warrior
(5/5)





Jerrard of the Closed Fist







Jerrard of the Closed Fist
3RedGreenGreen (6)



Legendary Creature — Human Knight
(6/5)




Kasimir the Lone Wolf







Kasimir the Lone Wolf
4WhiteBlue (6)



Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
(5/3)




Lady Orca







Lady Orca
5BlackRed (7)



Legendary Creature — Demon
(7/4)





Sir Shandlar of Eberyn







Sir Shandlar of Eberyn
4GreenWhite (6)



Legendary Creature — Human Knight
(4/7)




Sivitri Scarzam







Sivitri Scarzam
5BlueBlack (7)



Legendary Creature — Human
(6/4)



The Lady of the Mountain







The Lady of the Mountain
4RedGreen (6)



Legendary Creature — Giant
(5/5)





Tobias Andrion







Tobias Andrion
3WhiteBlue (5)



Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
(4/4)



Torsten Von Ursus







Torsten Von Ursus
3GreenGreenWhite (6)



Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
(5/5)
Date Posted: Tue Apr/27/10 at 7:36am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Actually, with dredge, there is loss.  You had one card in you hand and a land out, you play the card, now you have one card in your hand and no land.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/29/10 at 12:44pm

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Dredge might be usefull with a deck that requires from you to lose creatures. Lets say you got some kind of enchantment that when your creatures die you deal damage to an oponent or something. Then with 1 land you do this, plus you draw 1 card. Its not pointless.


------------------------------------------------------------
Champion's Victory U


Sorcery
Play Champion's Victory only after you're attacked, before you declare blockers.
Return one attacking creatyre to its owner's hand.


------------------------------------------------------------

Typo thingy? Or when this card was made you could play sorceries during your oponent's turn?
Date Posted: Thu Apr/29/10 at 5:46pm

newb
Posts: 175
Joined: 02-Feb-10

 



[Edited by newb on 29/Apr/10 at 5:47PM]

[Edited by newb on 10/May/10 at 4:18PM]
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 10:07am

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

no card is truly pointless... even chimney imp can do SOMETHING.... so is this more of a "bad" card topic?
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 10:09am

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

no card is truly pointless... even chimney imp can do SOMETHING.... so is this more of a "bad" card topic?
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 10:38am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Mindless Null...Show me a   good  use for it, and I'll worship you.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 12:57pm

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Mindless Null could be good against creatures with provoke.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 1:52pm

newb
Posts: 175
Joined: 02-Feb-10

Nice. Never thought of that.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 2:52pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Champion's victory is a portal card (the third edition) so the rules on socercies are different, there are no instants.  Really, what the card specifies is that you have the option to play the card on your oppenents turn.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 3:35pm

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

Card Name:
Champion's Victory
Mana Cost:

Converted Mana Cost:
1

Types:
Instant
Card Text:
Cast Champion's Victory only during the declare attackers step and only if you've been attacked this step.
Return target attacking creature to its owner's hand.
Expansion:
Portal Three Kingdoms
Rarity:
Uncommon
Card #:
39
Artist:
Hong Yan

Thats from Gatherer, and it looks like its been errata-ed to be an
instant....
Date Posted: Fri Apr/30/10 at 10:13pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Well, there goes my religion. So is Phagism for everyone or do I need to kill non-believers?
Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 6:06am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I would say that Blistering Dieflyn and Foul Imp are in the running for WORST card ever.
Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 4:40pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Yeah, at one point they got rid of starter sets, so they decided for players that find them strange (like our friend Phagegroupie) they would re-word them into current MTG wording.
Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 4:43pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Neither of those are that bad turbine, Foul imp is a pretty good speed card (not the best, but pretty good) and Blistering Dieflyn is great for a kill burn decks, as a finisher.
Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 5:06pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

besides foul imp has good flavor text and a black 2/2 flyer for two mana? thats pretty good considering for the same you can get a 1/1 bog imp
Date Posted: Sat May/01/10 at 9:44pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Trained OrggVizzerdrix
Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 11:26am

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Hehe, all hail the great Phage :D
Date Posted: Sun May/02/10 at 12:32pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Phage is the most pointless card.
Date Posted: Tue May/04/10 at 10:00pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

LOL... Phage?
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 12:14am

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Llanowar Elite
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 2:38pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Man, you were so much cooler as Arcanis.
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 2:38pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

the elite is much better than
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 5:52pm

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Ya know what Lin-Sivvi....  Come to think of it you are so right. Time to get back to my old roots
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 6:04pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

Final answer : Ertai's Trickery <-- pointless because I don't think this was even being used in block, let alone out of it.
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 6:06pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Eww, I can think of what the last arm is for? (O.O)
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 8:13pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Ertai's Trickery is useful during the time of kicker costs... Even now with cards with multikickers...

Defiant Elf is the funniest elf ever... a 1/1 trample is great... any player who doesn't know Elves, doesn't know that a 1/1 elf can become a 12/12 trample in turn 4 or 5...
Date Posted: Wed May/05/10 at 8:29pm

Houston
Posts: 101
Joined: 17-Mar-10

       Still there isn't enought threats w/ kicker to make that card worth playing, I'm sorry... but find a deck that uses this card EVER, and not only has it in there deck but it's not a pointless add i.e. I'm playing with blue so I think I will add this card in = ?. 

       The only time I see this ever getting played is when someone has a friend who is obbsessed with kicker and has an all kicker deck. And who knows someone, honistly, who plays a all or mostly, kicker deck?
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 12:28am

ARCANIS
Posts: 86
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Ha, Turbine named a good one, Phage is pretty pointless.......
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 1:12am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

rod of ruin
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 2:48am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Oh gericault, you want to start the pointless artifacts huh? How about Aladdin's Ring!
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 12:30pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Alladin's ring is powerful though overpriced

Rod of Ruin is alot worse
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 8:04pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well, Rod of ruins can deal much more damage compared to the ring, considering it has lower casting cost and less activation cost...
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 8:27pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

1 damage isn't really enough to kill much but four is
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 9:56pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Come on! If you have 9 mana, why not just Meteor Storm all their creatures.


[Edited by Turbine on 6/May/10 at 9:57PM]
Date Posted: Thu May/06/10 at 10:32pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

which is why they are pointless cards.  and the rod is worse as it will take 12 mana to do the dsamge of the ring
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 1:06am

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Many of you post cards not that are pointless but cards that you don't know how to take advantage of. As for rod of ruin, it's point is that you can use it again and again and again. If you have other cards that lower the activation cost of mana based abilities then rod of ruin is going to need 1 colorless or even 0 and by just tapping it you can deal damage. How many times have you seen cards in awesome combos, that if you had seen outside the combo you'd say "pft who would ever use that card?". Most of the cards I seen in this topic are good cards that just need a bit more thought in order to be used properly.
Date Posted: Fri May/07/10 at 1:25am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well, at around 4th turn i can already deal damage as for the ring, ummmm maybe around ∞th turn or even later...
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 10:51am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10


For the longest time I thought this card kicked ass.


Then I read it. . .
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 11:54am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

but don't forget trance came out in judgement, lasts of the odessy block, when flashback ruled and the grave was the kingdom
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 11:59am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

well, even then, still not all decks had flashback, and the card cost three mana, plus you need the right color of mana, and 3 more than the cost.
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 12:08pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

True but there are many cards that seem pointless today but actually made sense when they were printed, this is one of them
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 12:47pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Well, this is simple nature, cards aren't made with no intention, they are obviously thinking something, but this is for the most pointless card, this and dredge are way up there.
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 2:01pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

but then what is the criteria to be considered pointless? 

Both of these had a point when they were printed and while they don't fit into every deck, both of them can still be benefical in a deck created for them., such as Trance with play from grave cards like recoup and yawgmoths bargin, dredge with any of the temp steal spells, ie.  threaten, treason, the persecuter,.  Though I will say dredge has more benefit to in it can serve as a cantrip for creatures marked for death.

 

 
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 2:55pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

I can't see what cards you posted, could you just tell me

Like I said, every card has some intended use, it is just a matter of how practical it is.
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 3:19pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Abyssal PersecutorRecoupYawgmoth's WillThreaten

I do agree every card has some use, in which case that very statement means no card is pointless, though many are specialized.  Take the following card for example:

Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero

 

Lin-Sivvi (the card) fits in a Rebel deck, but outside of that she is pointless and has no pratical value, Does she belong on a Pointless Card list?
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 3:45pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Note the difference between "specific for deck" and "specific against deck"  Lin Sivvi is specific for rebel decks.  Brutal suppresion on the other hand is specific against rebel decks.  Building a deck with a couple of rebels in it is a useful deck for winning, building a deck specificly against rebel decks is not a very useful deck.  So I say that Lin Sivvi isn't the most useful card, hardly any deck you put it in will it prove useful, but it is more useful than many other cards designed specificly against certain decks.
Date Posted: Mon May/10/10 at 7:57pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I agree... Every card has it's own use... It will depend on the player that uses it to make it effective...

For example the Legendary creatures of Legends... You can use those cards for CMC abilities like for the Shoals... For those who don't know the Shoals, they are







































Blazing Shoal Instant - Arcane XRR
Betrayers of Kamigawa $0.71
Disrupting Shoal Instant Arcane XUU
Betrayers of Kamigawa $0.59
Nourishing Shoal Instant - Arcane XGG
Betrayers of Kamigawa $0.35
Shining Shoal Instant - Arcane XWW
Betrayers of Kamigawa $1.37
Sickening Shoal Instant - Arcane XBB
Betrayers of Kamigawa $0.82

Date Posted: Wed May/12/10 at 1:18pm

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Abyssal Prosecutor is a great card by far! Just imagine it in a deck with Bazaar Trader. I made such a deck in Magic Workstation and it works great.
Date Posted: Wed May/12/10 at 1:19pm

Phagegroopie
Posts: 117
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Or you can just summon this 6/6 flying trample monstrocity with only 4 lands and destroy it yourself later.
Date Posted: Thu May/20/10 at 4:11am

Lightsteel
Posts: 86
Joined: 10-May-10

Menacing ogre's not too smart once you've seen it.



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