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Title: Multiple Epics Question
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 2:18am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Quick question as I go through some cards, no one really uses the cards with the "Epic" ability from the Kamigawa block, is there a way to utilize more than one?

Assuming mana was available to do so, could someone in theory play something like Enduring Ideal, then play Quicken, followed by Enduring Swarm? Nothing has resolved, and once the first Epic spell resolves, it only prevents you from casting spells for the rest of the game, and the spells are already on the stack so you would no longer be actually casting them...

Another great way to get more than one out would be with Jhoira of the Ghitu, and suspend a few of them at the same time. Wasn't sure if there were rules that supported or defied this.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 8:41am

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Yes, you can cast as many as you like as long as none of them have resolved! You can also copy them multiple times, with Uyo, for example, and you will get multiple epic triggers each upkeep!
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 10:41am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Gadzooks Pinkie your new pic startled me.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 10:56am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

By God's hooks!

It's kind of funny. Pinkie Pie is molester.

[Edited by Turbine on 26/Feb/12 at 10:56AM]
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 4:28pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

I have a question! What happens when you combine Epic with Eye of the Storm? Does that Epic stack every turn or does epic just negate eye of the storm all together?
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 4:46pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

That.... is a very good question
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 6:25pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Eye of the storm says you "cast" it! Epic says you cant cast stuff! So eye doesnt work!
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 6:43pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

According to my research though, you can fork/mirari the ORIGINAL epic, since the spell has not resolved hence you can still play spells until then, hence you will have multiple epics going off each of your turns.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 6:43pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

Well then, my next question is, what happens if Eye of the Storm is already out when the epic is played? Couldn't you not play the epic spell copy(from EotS), mindslaver your opponent to play a spell and only copy endless swarm, having already set up something that prevents creatures from attacking and having Angel's Trumpet in play to deal them damage for each creature that they have that did not attack?

Does eye work that way? Does exiling the spell remove it from the stack or am I off?


[Edited by Boyachi on 26/Feb/12 at 6:51PM]
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 8:05pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

It does, but that seems like a ridiculously convoluted and unnecesary way to kill someone...!
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 9:50pm

Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11

Convolution is never the point, it is whether or not it is the point. Spending ten white mana on a spell that doesn't make you automatically win the game is convoluted enough. Being unable to play any other spells for the rest of the game more so.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/26/12 at 10:22pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

In one of my riku edh decks my wincon is eternal dominion....! One time i got 9 copies!